Profile of Kurobane

The issue with the double-scott was that it effectively deleted OST's entire stock roster with very little user input, something that 2x Tanks or 2x Rocket arty couldn't do. OST is entirely designed around static units; the MG42, LMG grens, Pak40s (ost's only 60-range AT) and so on, in addition to being designed around small squads (4 models). That faction design against two fast moving, fast auto-firing artillery units that could usually wipe 1-2 models per hit just wasn't a great experience.

That's not to say that current scott is 'good'; it could probably use some adjustments, especially to the manual barrage. However, returning it to its pre-nerf levels just isn't going to work.

This is wrong on many levels. Assuming both parties are of equal skill Panzer IV should come out before Sherman does or at about the same time. If they choose to go M8 Scott first then they leave themselves open to get dived by my tanks. If the Whermacht player has no tanks out on the field before USF can manage to get Double M8 Scotts then he probably already lost well before that point. I personally have never lost to any USF player who made M8 Scots pre-nerf or not. Are they annoying as hell? Sure but so were Soviet Clown Cars back in the day with Snipers in them and people cried nonstop about how overpowered it was yet it never stopped me from winning. It was a L2P issue. After nerf M8 Scott just tickles my units and is nothing but a glorious smoke thrower.

Second why are people making LMG Grens vs USF without grabbing Ambush Camo, G43 or Veteran Squad Leaders? These are significantly more useful vs USF as they can protect your MG from flanks all game while also being significantly more mobile than LMG Grenadiers. If they are spamming LMG Grenadiers and getting owned by M8 Scotts then they deserve to lose. Different commanders are good/better vs different factions (shocker). Even pre-nerf M8 Scotts were never scary because of the timing that they come into play when you are (should be) shifting to tanks at that point. Mortar Halftrack, Regular Mortar, or even Pak Howitzers are more dangerous than M8 Scotts due to the timing that they arrive.

Also remember when USF had double LMG and could throw smoke? (Also pre nerf M8 Scott Period) that never really changed Axis win rates as more experienced players just adapted (and made use of mines for the incoming smoke that would eventually come and Panzer Grenadiers)

Everything you mentioned is basically people who are bad at the game and don't know or want to adapt. The fact of the matter is that M8 Scott is a trash unit in a faction that is poorly designed with an arsenal of extremely sub par units held together by bandaids and no amount of stat adjustments will fix it unless they address the root of the problem which is the poor faction design.

Wonder how Axis won prior to winter patch. It used to have 100 dmg with 1 near distance.

Agreed even before all the nerfs were dished out to USF its not like Axis were losing every single match. Hell even when Soviets had snipers in Clown Cars as annoying as it was, it didn't effect my ability to win.

If we are going to have Asymmetrical Balance then naturally some factions should be better at some things than others but the issue is those unique things are what the Balance Team Targets and focus's all the nerfs on while leaving all the unique things on Axis untouched.

Take the M1919A6 LMG, why is it ok to nerf getting two of these (A doctrinal upgrade which would cost 140 Ammo to get both of them) because they deleted HMG's but having Obers a stock unit with less ammo investment be able to walk straight into an MG and delete it without even flanking it is ok? There is far to many double standards.

Having Stuka which only requires one building (Mechanized) and outperform Dual Scott which arrives much later with a bigger fuel investment is silly at this point especially since the justification for the nerf was that getting two of them were too effective.

M8 scott / M26 got buff becausse they suck ass so hard on their own job.

It is still worse than what the unit was before the nerf

I was hoping the June patch could fix some of the issues, but it only worsened the situation. And then Relic is telling me they are hiring people from the community, which I assume are those belonging to the current CoH 2 balance team, to assist the balance in CoH3. Oh boy, I can't imagine how bad it will become.

If the Current Balance Team is involved with COH 3 I will not buy it. Every time they release a patch something is game breaking broken, Fallshirmjaeger, Sector Assault, JLI, SturmTiger and notice how most of these things are Axis units and you rarely see something OP on Allies side.

Instead they release lame ass stuff for like the Easy-8.

I do feel like a lot of potential USF problems inevitably come to down to the Scott being underwhelming. Like in the hypothetical game where you teched LT and went for something like Heavy Calvary that has no offmaps then Pak 43 will probably give you some problems. In that way I feel for OP. On the other hand there are many many times where it's super easy to wipe Pak 43 off the map - especially if it's in an aggressive position. All in all I think it's a fair balance that is standard Commander pick and counter pick fare.

Agreed, for 10 less fuel than Katyusha/Panzerwerfer it shoots out wet noodles in comparison to those units. I would be for removing the Auto Attack Component and making the Barrage do actual damage from a longer range.