Wish I had bookmarked that clip where luchs obliterated full health con squad with a single burst.
where they likely where clumped up but everything gets fucked up when clumped up even a shrek can one shot a full squad in 1 hit these days. |
You did not get my point.
Luchs is the only ligh vehicle which is able to get over 40kills.
Greyhound is able to do the same thing but only when spends tons of ammo.
So Greyhound, 50ammo ability, more fragile, less hp is OP byt Luchs is not?
the luchs donest 1 shot stuff. technically spoken usf aa track does far more damage then the luchs. |
Youre right,its only cost effective against ostheer.
most OKW units(Besides unvetted volks at like point blank) eat him alive after a while unless you buff him out with weapons.
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The most useful part of this squad IMO (the thompson) is almost always negated because the LT himself gets killed first all the time.
Are you seriously complaining about a free riflemen squad with a smg and a bar? |
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Lemonjuice is correct it is the best anti support weapon out their able to wipe out a squad or more every minute. But it is possible to fire out of the los by targeting your target at the edge of the circle thus giving you 5 extra range. you need the infra red track for it to be really effective. |
Maxim is a bad investment choice if playing against OKW. It will get outflanked since OKW spams volks which btw have doctrinal building demolishing cheap assault nades. Maxim will simply end up in OKWs arsenal to be used against you.
I find M3 being good at capping the cut off point on the way from chasing down retreating squads.
lol if you cannot handle the maxim i want to see you handle the mg42 against script spam. |
Barrage became crap since infantry doesn't lay down and stop moving after shell explosion nearby.
That means you pay 60 MU for a single very inaccurate shot, because competent player will just move his blob away.
Also it makes fake first shot but barrage indicator already shows up above ZIS gun which makes it possible for opponent to completely avoid the ability if he reacts fast.
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i expect that from every competent player. barrage and nades for that matter are for the most part area denial abilities and if it kills the better but i dont use them to kill squads just to displace them. |
I'd still say having to pay so much only to be able to get a ZiS gun is bad value as T1 got all the AI I need. No point to support your Cons with Maxims when you have Penals with flamers and Snipers. It is all about being cost effectiv, but I guess this boils down to bad faction design.
It is always frustrating for me to play as Soviet when o just had a game as Wehrmacht when there is answer to everything and you don't have to rely on call ins, cheesy tactics or broken units.
Really? you have no use for a maxim to lock an area down or use a force multiplier or the indirect fire of the mortar? |
The only and i mean ONLY time my cons beat volks. is if they are supported, the volks are hurt, or the cons picked up and lmg.
At short range and midrange the scripts will win. at long range volks will win. end of story. It will not be an overwhelming victory with the script losing quite few members but they still win.
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WTF is your point mate. i already acknowledged that volks scale better through vet then scripts. |
U are using them wrong then
He is correct you know. on equal footing volks will lose. and the only way for volks with shrek to win from a vet 3 script squad is to have vet 5. |
With the current T1/T2 prices going there only to get a ZiS gun is not very cost effective, believe me I've tried.
Current tier 1/2 prices are lower then the ostheer tech for going to tier 1 to 2. stop bitching use combined arms . An AT gun is always useful for the soviets because of barrage. and the mortars an maxim are useful to. |
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