Yeah nerf the AT Nade,it one shots my MG-42,Armoured Car,FlameHT,Ostwind and even Tiger,this is ridicoulous,Germans don't have early/mid/late game chance against these monsters...or better,you should remove all AT and vehicles from Soviets and rename the faction France,Poland or Denmark and there you go,the perfect game  ) |
Progression structure between the factions in CoH2 is in a alternating 0.5 "step-up" format, uptil t4 and Vet3, where it equalises.
Balance is very complex in CoH2, much moreso than in vCoH.
For example, Ost has no light tank, nor a dedicated non-doctrinal tank destroyer. Elephant, doctrinally, fills that capacity, as an "ultimate" tank destroyer (although ISU-52 is damn close, frankly, overall). This is compensated for on Ost with its linear tech path where it doest have to "choose", but can instead tech, at reduced cost compared to a building, instead of having to build each one in turn at full cost. (Although evn that is not so simple, since Ost must pay even for a tech level that it does not produce from, albeit at a reduced cost. Whereas Sovs tech investments are all building related, and hence all provide an actual unit output for that investment.)
I think on the relation between tank destroyers, its not so much an issue of SU85, as it is of Stug being a bit shit still. 2xStugs should be in a position to beat an SU85 with about 75% attrition to one Stug, in relatively optimal situations. Unfortunately, due to relative speed, rotation, range, frontal armor, penetration and damage, this simply doesnt happen for Stugs.
People have spoken about comparing units in a "vacuum", but this is a relevant comparison.
Surely you too can see how unit progression between the factions is in a 0.5 stepladder-type format?
I will demonstrate, roughly (im drunk)
M3 is countered by 0.5 step 222 Upgun.
222 Upgun is countered by 0.5 step T70.
Here there is a tier gap, owing to cost and tierage.
T34 counters the entire Ost builds to that point by 0.5.
PIV counters T34 by 0.5.
T34/85 counters PIV by 0.25
SU85 counters PIV by 0.5.
Panther counters SU85 by 0.5.
Here there is a tier and doctrine break from convention. Generally, at T4, both armor options are equivalent, albeit asymmetrically either better armored, or better at AI or AT.
Not a "perfect" system, and my expression of it wasnt perfect either, but I hope I communicated my general view of the rough framework of 0.5, half-step, alternating ladder-like progression nature between the two factions.
This is btw also represented in infantry and advanced support options.
Interesting info,they should've made the units more alike thus resolving balance issues,why does a faction have something that the other one hasn't...this wasn't even the case
Ex : Germans Panzer 2 LIGHT TANKS or Soviet Ba-64 ARMOURED CAR(again,why is this missing,it was their primary reconnaisance vehicle) ,Wespe self propelled gun and so on... |
Personal question: Are you gay? Or why so fixated on me personally?
This is so fun to read,really...better than the KV-8 being overpowered ) |
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If they gave the Germans a tank destroyer we wouldn't even have this thread...The Jagdpanther was a beast in vCoh,why is it missing? |
Get a Panzer and neither of them is OP anymore  |
this pile of dung will be banned soon hopefully ...
You would like that,wouldn't you?
Don't blame me because you had to repeat first grade kid,LoL |
Its got nothing to do with what is smart for your business or how many people play a particular game mode. The problem is it's just NOT POSSIBLE to balance 3v3 and 4v4, those game modes are about who can spam the most units faster then the other team, simple. 1v1 and 2v2 actually have some strategy involved.
Uhm it's a strategy game so yeah,I think you need strategy whether you are playing 1 vs 1 or 4 vs 4...also I usually play 2 vs 2 or 3 vs 3...4 vs 4 is shit and at least one person is kicked in the beginning and 1 vs 1 finishes too quick and gives little xp |
ahhhh marx must be happy that in the 21st century the legacy of communism and faggotry is alive on the internet thanks to the joker.
Be happy Nazi kid,Marx,not marx like a retarded kid who had to repeat first grade,was German,so the faggotry title remains in your possesion,papa Adolf would be so proud of you,pidaryuga... |
congrats on the 100th post .... one of the few notable achievements of your otherwise shitty life trying to suck russian d!ck
I won't argue with you anymore Schnitzel,you've proven your intelligence...Even if you were twice as smart, you'd still be retarded |
Yesterday I had 3 pios, 1 shrek. I killed 10 su 85s with my mind and a stick of german butter. My opponent was like "o shizam V mec you so cool", it turned out to be a hot lovely Brazilian beauty queen.We then rode off in to the Sunset and made sweet sweet love. So Stop your stupid Nazi Buttholes on yo faces from spewing. Of course I don't have a replay but just believe me
WoW that's what I was gonna write,you've got potential |
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