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MGs in buildings have larger LOS. The 5 range differential can occasionally get a sniper left alone to weed out an MG into trouble on account of auto-cover seeking and jumping forwards a bit to shoot and stuff like that. I think the range difference should be a bit bigger personally.
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Who is whining now?
If it would nerf reverse speed on all vehicles(including German,let's be unbiased,no?),then I would agree with you
This man in all his wisdom is rightthe sniper always dances forward out of cover before shooting
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So reversing vehicles are just as fast as driving forward!?
Then why does every tank driver insist on turning 180 degrees when you give a move command to some far location in the back?
This is pretty dumb, atm I always give a reverse command but I was under the impression forward driving tanks were faster. I figured tanks would turn around as soon as driving the distance forwards would be faster.
It feels like necessary micro because of bad AI...
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In a vacuum maybe. Infantry will eat PG´s as their anti infantry abilities are crippled with the Schrecks.
I´ve been used to the stupid range of the "stock" Su-85. Yet there are two things that are still annoying as hell:
1) The bulletin lets the Su-85 have even more range than Paks
2) As if that was not enough shots bounce from it´s front armor on a regular basis.
If it has insane range then it should be a GLASS CANNON. Yet you see Panzer IV shots not penetrating quite often.
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So reversing vehicles are just as fast as driving forward!?
Then why does every tank driver insist on turning 180 degrees when you give a move command to some far location in the back?
This is pretty dumb, atm I always give a reverse command but I was under the impression forward driving tanks were faster. I figured tanks would turn around as soon as driving the distance forwards would be faster.
It feels like necessary micro because of bad AI...
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1) is a very salient point. Saw an SU-85 sniping my pak from beyond max range earlier... awkward. I would have minded but I was using ridiculously OP stuff too.
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I don't understand the complaints regarding SU-85. All you really need is a PzIV to destroy them.
I haven't built a single PzV in 1v1 or 2v2 game as a German. Why you would go for Panthers when you can have 2 PzIV for the same price. Bargain.
And when you will get Vet1 Blitz you don't need to flank them. You can just rush head on and get behind them using this ability.
I would only build Panthers in 3v3 or 4v4 games but rarely.
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Tanks prefer to go forwards because their heaviest armour is at the front. The reverse function adds a bit of micro-intensity that helps separate good from great players, so it's a good thing. If we never had to think about pathing, cover etc what would be the point of playing?
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I don't understand the complaints regarding SU-85. All you really need is a PzIV to destroy them.
I haven't built a single PzV in 1v1 or 2v2 game as a German. Why you would go for Panthers when you can have 2 PzIV for the same price. Bargain.
And when you will get Vet1 Blitz you don't need to flank them. You can just rush head on and get behind them using this ability.
I would only build Panthers in 3v3 or 4v4 games but rarely.
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and what do you think about a little PAK buff for max range..equal to the SU or maybe the same ability for the pak.
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ROFL ... PZ4 vs su85. What do you smoke ? This is as good as the guy telling everyone to use mg42 against snipers.
Did you know ... pz4 costs the same as an su85 and comes out the same time. So there is a very high chance that both are unvetted when they meet each other meaning no blitz. Su85 can warp speed reverse away from any flank attack and with guards to button up that pz4 its curtains.
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Joker's true colors beginning to show.
I think you need to paint your fake smile back on afresh.
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Went yesterday to baserape,had 3 Panzer 4's,which one was vet 2 and the others where vet 1...Destroyed 2 SU-85's,1 T34,2 T34-85's and my only casualty was the vet 2 Panzer,which it was no biggie because the other two were promoted,so yeah if you are smarter than a worm,which I doubt you are,Panzer 4 can win you the game,so please stop your schnitzel eater nazi mouth from bitching...
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Yesterday I had 3 pios, 1 shrek. I killed 10 su 85s with my mind and a stick of german butter. My opponent was like "o shizam V mec you so cool", it turned out to be a hot lovely Brazilian beauty queen.We then rode off in to the Sunset and made sweet sweet love. So Stop your stupid Nazi Buttholes on yo faces from spewing. Of course I don't have a replay but just believe me
Went yesterday to baserape,had 3 Panzer 4's,which one was vet 2 and the others where vet 1...Destroyed 2 SU-85's,1 T34,2 T34-85's and my only casualty was the vet 2 Panzer,which it was no biggie because the other two were promoted,so yeah if you are smarter than a worm,which I doubt you are,Panzer 4 can win you the game,so please stop your schnitzel eater nazi mouth from bitching...
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Yesterday I had 3 pios, 1 shrek. I killed 10 su 85s with my mind and a stick of german butter. My opponent was like "o shizam V mec you so cool", it turned out to be a hot lovely Brazilian beauty queen.We then rode off in to the Sunset and made sweet sweet love. So Stop your stupid Nazi Buttholes on yo faces from spewing. Of course I don't have a replay but just believe me
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Kill a SU-85 with a PzIV? Only against a really, really bad soviet player. When I play soviet on a team game, the only things that kill my SU-85s are, by order of likeliness to do it: Elephant, Panthers and PGrens w/ shreks - and the last 2 only if they overwhelm me (i.e. have a much bigger army value in play than me) or if I make some really bad micro play. And I'm definitely not claiming to be a pro player, I'm pretty mediocre. All you need is to know how to properly reverse, seriously.
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