Elefant has awesome range,but with the scope....that's a little exagerrated ?  |
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A question,does Maxim has better surpression than the MG42 at this moment? |
its not really fair to simplify such a complex balancing issue down to 1 sentence. the mg42 has better damage at all but the longest ranges. id say the maxim is the much better suppresser though. maxim can easily suppress at long ranges (where you want to suppress units), while the mg42 is better at suppressing up close. the other differences like arc and setup time are well known so i dont even need to mention them.
basically, the mg42s damage is very good, but i dont think its enough to balance it currently. its lack of mobility and suppression make it extremely vulnerable to not only flanking, but head on attacks. its so easy to displace that its high dps is rarely realized.
Yes I had this moment when I sent Conscripts to capture a fuel point and an MG was there...was ready to hit retreat then observed that it didn't surpress from the first burst...made it easy just to charge+molotov... |
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At least they buffed the Soviet strafe,it was 240 munitions for a Recon Plane before |
+1
A lot of the soviet only players who defend KV8 saying its a "heavy tank" dug themselves a hole when they realize it costs almost the same as a medium tank.
KV8 badly needs a cost increase or armor reduction.
In your previous post you cried that it destroy's infantry too quickly and now you cry because it's armor is too strong,seriously make up your mind...
It's a Heavy Tank,so the armor reduction is out of the question,why would you use your infantry on the best Anti-Infantry unit in the game,logic much?....maybe damage reduction would be more relevant/appealing |
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I agree SU-85 is more of an ambush/defensive unit...it would be suicidal to attack an enemy with the SU-85 head-on and without support
And yes,some games play quite nice with Shock Troops on the ofensive,capping VP and SU-85 in the back,90% of the time Ostheer will bring an Ostwind to fend Shocks off...that's when the SU-85 comes in the play...this is a good tactic,at least for me,last three games did wonders |
incredible how the 2 posters above who never play germans but lie through their teeth claiming they do keep defending the supression nerf inspite of the millions of video proof showing how mg42 can now be killed headon by a conscript squad.
Communist love must be high at this time of the year.
You sir are a ...You know what,I'm not going to play your idiotic games anymore,you've proven your intelligence by calling anyone who isn't agreeing with you "communist",yet ignoring the fact that some of them are actually right...and then you continue to spread this "intelligence" of yours in other threads,your stupidity clearly wasn't shown enough in just one,one good example being when you said that Relic favours the Soviet faction and every patch only the "Germans are nerfed to hell",again ignoring the balance issues this game had and still has...Seriously kid,ignorance is bliss,but this?...so I'll let you live in your fantasy little world full of conspiracy theories,rainbows and unicorns,good luck making a fool of yourself |
now that i look closer, im not sure where nullist pulled these numbers. those arent even close to what i had on the spreadsheet. my numbers were inaccurate anyway though. these numbers have been fixed now, although you have to look at a seperate tab for incremental accuracy. the problem is dps for an mg42 is fairly complex since it changes based on the number of entities in its search radius. the more entities, the more accurate it is, meaning more dps. this increased dps obviously caps once the accuracy reaches 100%. for each entity killed, the accuracy and dps start going down. maxims accuracy and dps are constant. the best i can do for comparison purposes is assume the mg42 fires on 1 full squad of 6 men.
MG42 DPS vs 6 entities:
near: 48.57 mid: 26.62 far 4.67
Maxim DPS vs any number of entities
near: 24.18 mid: 15.08 far 5.99
sorry if my old numbers caused any confusion. should be all better now. just in case anyones curious, heres the mg42 with the smallest accuracy bonus possible.
MG42 DPS vs a single entity
near: 30.16 mid: 16.53 far:2.90
So in a nuttshell,MG is better than the Maxim...then why all the crying on the forums? |
The only thing I think could be improved is set up time. It could be smaller by a notch.
Why,so it would pack when it is in flames again and redeploy 3 meters behind to continue shooting?No thank you,if it was flanked or received a molotov to the face,then retreat it... |
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Weird that this didn't happen to me...or to everyone else,had 3 Conscripts squads retreat at least two times from MG in church...so attacking head-on doesn't work,flanking is a viable tactic now,just support your weapon team and you'll be okay
In the first video crew members were dying from those barrel's and truck's explosions,also maybe Conscripts were in cover...
Second video...Conscripts are in the exact same place as in the first video |
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