Profile of gokkel

I kind of stopped using T3 in 3on3 / 4on4 lately as well. Most enemies spam SU85s in my experience, and it is difficult to deal with them if you have only Panzer IV or StuG III once they become too many; eventually you want Panthers. You also get access to Panzerwerfer in T4 which is great, and the Brummbär is a bit more tanky and can help against enemy tanks as well in comparison to the Ostwind (although I used to prefer Ostwinds before).

You don't get Ostwinds for AA if you skip T3, but you can still use Scout Cars with the upgrade to deal with that, which is cheaper.

If you skip T3 you get your tanks a bit later, but you can survive until then with Pak 40 or Panzerschrecks.


If you go for Tigers instead of Panthers you can instead go for T3 of course, but I find the lack of mobility of Tigers annoying in such team games; SU85s beat them up before they get close and B4-artillery becomes even more deadly if you are too slow.

Why do I not take part in tournaments:

• I am not good enough in the game to have any chances in getting far
  
• (usually) lack of incentives (I saw the SNF had actually some nice prices though)
  
• currently I don't play 1on1 in CoH2 (may change in the future; in DoW2 the switch from 2on2 to 1on1 for example was not difficult)
  
• don't like being forced to play at specific schedules (and usually with very long amount of time to have to play in one piece)
  
• often really bad organization of tournaments, leading to long wait times and stress in sorting things out with other players
  
• having to deal with annoying people as enemies sometimes (it is one thing to meet them during normal automatch, but another to have to deal with them during a tournament)
  

What can Relic do to encourage me taking part in tournaments?

To be honest, I don't see many possibilities currently that would really make me take part in a tournament in the nearest future (as in, next tournament ). But a few suggestions anyway:

• sponsoring some prices to tournaments for the winners (nothing huge and expensive is necessary really, I would be perfectly happy with a tiny price just as a small additional motivation); maybe some little present even for rest of participants like a skin?
  
• split the games on different days, don't put too many games in one day
  
• keep an eye on the following of basic behaviour rules by all players
  
• make sure that people play their games on the arranged dates, keep the organization of the games in your (or the tournament organizers') hands, don't make the players have to sort out everything (because this will just cause stress for everyone)
  
• create some kind of competition that is also attractive for people who cannot compete in the highest ranks, but would like to compete with people closer to their own skill
  

In 4on4s these things are a nightmare to fight against. You really have to keep moving all the time, otherwise it will reliably oneshot infantry squads and tanks without any prewarning (this also means the first shot you won't know about until it is too late). Tigers can survive a shot if on full health at least. If you have a damaged engine on a tank, you cannot even escape from it though or try to repair it.

Maybe it is map dependent, I have not tried the B4 myself since I don't have the commander, but on the maps where it works it feels silly currently.

Yes, this is how it should work!

Well, I am opening this thread because lately I am doing horribly with Germans in 3v3 and 4v4 (don't play other game modes currently).

It does not matter if we get dominated in early game, most often by Shocktroops, or if actually we are controlling the game most of the time just to throw the game away in late game because B4 artillery cannons or KV-2s or just the sheer mass of SU85s with their cost and range advantage are destroying all our tanks and infantry.

Games degrade to desperate capping wars when neither side can risk a big attack on each others tank force. Here the Russians are in the advantage since their tanks are all anti-infantry and Shocktroops also beat any infantry, while most German units cannot beat Shocktroops quickly enough. I even saw enemies drop burning bombs on a VP just to send three Shocktroop squads into the fire which don't seem to care much and get the cap through.

Now it would be easy to blame balance, and while I think the game has balance issues I will still blame myself though because quite obviously there are still a lot of players who are more successful with Germans than I am. I could obviously also blame my team mates (always the same people) instead, since in a 4v4 one guy can only do so much, but I notice I am struggling myself often enough so I know there is enough room for improvement.

Now I am not sure what kind of help I can request. Maybe some kind of general advice or strategies for team games would be a start.