Profile of UGBEAR

I too would like to see the t-34-85 as a universal upgrade to t-34's. Maybe 80 fuel and 200 mp or something within that range.

The T-34/76 can do almost as same as 98% DPS against a PZIV, there's no point to make it a Upgrade-able unit if it stats stay like this.
My suggestion is:

Make it single call-in Or for 1v1 competitive purpose,make it buildable in T3 or T4 factories after it gets unlock.

Reload reuce form 8.45 to 6
(no reason make it highest reloading time among the guns with 160 alpha damage)

Armor increase from 124 to 180(on par with PZIV)

Penetration rise from 110 to 140~150
(85mm zis-53 or D-5T should be better than the PZIV)

Cost from 720/260FUEL double call-in become 400/125FUEL single call-in or buildable in either T3 and T4.

Scatter increase from 2.6 to 9.5

To make it more AT like

Just in case if someone ask why the armor is slightly better for its hull only has 45mm armor, well it's 100~110mm turret front armor and hull is 45mm 60° sloped from vertical=45/cos60=90mm VS PZIV 80mm maxium)

i think the t3485s would only pay off if the player wants to skip buildings. other than that they are just a waste. only works for 1v1s if you can catch your opponent off guard with t3485s, but there are no other reason to get it.

it's only good for one thing in 1v1 and that is because you get to skip buildings but in 2v2s, 3v3s, 4v4s they are just a waste, because if you are planning to call in pairs after pairs of them you might as well get a building and build cheaper t34s because they are more cost effective. they are just meant to catch the opponent off guard if you made them fast enough but if that fails it's starts to get less cost effective the more you call in.

all this balancing around 1v1s is shit. it's shit balance for 1v1s and even more shit balance for everything else.

This is a Simple way to solve this, you can only field a T-34/85 and other tanks only if you build a T3 or T4 building.

Same works for Ostheer, can only filed tank only if you build T3 Or reach the battle phase of T4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkGsyIHzICs
One of the latest propaganda casts. Really showed how bad they are. Couldn't even kill a P4 from behind and they are so expensive that you can't even replace them if one goes down.

PZIV cost(320MP/115FU)
Armor 160(F), 640HP, 160damage/hit , 110 penetration
Reload+Aim=5.75+0.125=5.825sec
Scatter 9.5, AOE 2.5
Have a Turret Machine gun upgrade for AA purpose and bonus to AI


T-34/85 cost (360MP/130FU but you must pay 720/260 for call-in)
Armor 124(F), 800HP, 160damage/hit, 110 penetration
Reload+Aim=8.45+0.125=8.575sec
Scatter 2.6, AOE 2.5


T-34/76 cost (280MP/85FU)
Armor 115(F), 640HP, 120damage/hit, 80 penetration,
Reload+Aim=4.75+0.125=4.875
Scatter 6.9 AOE 2.5


PZIV penetrating T-34/85: 110/124=88.7097%
PZIV penetrating T-34/76: 110/115=95.6522%
T-34/85 penetrating PZIV: 110/160=68.75%
T-34/76 penetrating PZIV: 80/160=50%



PZIV finishing off a T-34/85: (800/160)*5.825/(88.7097%)=32.8318sec

PZIV finishing off a T-34/76: (640/160)*5.825/(95.6522%)=24.3591sec

T-34/85 finishing off a PZIV: (640/160)*8.575/(68.75%)=49.8909sec(WTF?)

T-34/76 finishing off a PZIV: (640/120)*4.875/(50%)=52sec
(see why it's retarded , only 2 sec differ to T-34/85)

Meanwhile, T-34/85 needs 4CP and you have to pay 720/260FU for initial cost, and PZIV can always hit the field much earlier than a T-34/85. AND THIS SITUATION HAVEN'T BEEN CHANGED FOR AT LEAST 3 MONTH.

I'm also shocked that even a T-34/76 performs so much better in terms of cost-effectiveness compare to T-34/85.

The vehicle balance is full-retarded.

Let's see the vet change in next patch

- The nerf speed of SU85 the most dangerous for the Panthers. Are the
kings of coh2.

- The speed SU85 vs PIV is well balanced.

- The skill "Blitzkrieg Tactics" should not be used in T4. The Panthers are very good, give them an extra speed make them OP.

- "Blitzkrieg Tactics" can be used with the damaged engine. This should not be so.


Edit: Yes, I agree with speed slow. A tank of 165 fuel, means a tank hard, and therefore should be at a lower speed

it's 130 fuel now