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Jump back to quoted post5 Oct 2013, 02:33 AMtengen

Look.

The 1943 IS2 has a frontal lower glacis of 60mm at 72* from vertical, (effective 194mm), front upper hull at 120mm at 30* (effective 138mm) and a mantlet of 100mm at 0* (vertical). The IS2 has had historically poor turret protection, but superb hull, leading to most losses due to turret penetration or turret jamming at the turret ring.

The Panther Ausf. G has 80mm at 55* from vertical (effective 139mm), and a turret mantlet of 100mm at 12* (effective 102mm).

The IS-2 (1943) is armed with a 122mm D-25T L/43 gun, which with APCBC rounds can penetrate 204mm at 0* at 1000m, or 130mm at 30* at 1000m.

The Panther Ausf. G is armed with a 7.5cm KwK42 L/70, which with APCBC can penetrate 149mm at 0* at 1000m, 111mm at 30* at 1000m, or with APCR rounds, penetrate 170 at 0* at 1000m and 149mm at 30* at 1000m. The latter were often in short supply, so it's safe to assume the Panthers are(were) firing APCBC.

Settling the quality of steel aside and assuming homogeneous plates, projectile deflections or partial deflections, and disregarding battle conditions such as optics, ambush, visibility, or accuracy, what does this mean?

- The IS-2 can penetrate the Panther's turret at distances over 1000m, but not the front glacis plate (the hull).

- The Panther Ausf. G, with APCBC ammunition, can penetrate the IS-2's turret and upper hull at distances over 1000m, but not the lower glacis plate.

- Both of you are fucking retarded for arguing off-topic for three pages.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2013, 22:12 PMAffe

I know i am Genius and we also know that you are brainless.
Genius(affe)>Brainless(UGBEAR)

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2013, 21:34 PMAffe

PLS GIVE ME SOURCES OF 348MM PENETRATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WANT TO SEE THE SOURCES FOR YOUR CLAIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I just asking this rhetorical since i know that he doesnt have a single source or proof for his Fantasy Claims.)

IS-2 data


I give it up.You have an extreme low IQ no intelligence or logic.Just brainless UGBEAR.Never seen a guy with such low IQ.

Anyway Panthers and Tigers raped IS-2s with ease since they were much better tank fighters.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2013, 15:43 PMAffe

UGBEAR = troll.
BTW you still ignoring my post #45 there is the proof.
Lol UGBEAR is ignoring posts that doesn t fit his reality.
IS-2 didnt had 240 armour.It had 120mm at 30° same as the steelplate with panther gun was tested.So panther could penetrate it cause:

174mm panther gun Penetration(against steelplate 30° from horizont) > 120mm armour of IS-2(sloped also against 30° from horizontal.

Jump back to quoted post4 Oct 2013, 16:14 PMAffe

Show me it s a rule measuring from vertical pls.I wanna see that rule.And pls explain me about 80° sloped Tiger armour.I want to have an Explanation from you.