Profile of Ginnungagap

Hello Tom.

So, the general consensus is the USA has a weak late game, more so in team games.
After playing them a good amount mostly in 2v2, i would almost dare to say they don't.


And this is mainly because of these units:

Paratroopers with 1919s. Think of them as 6 men Obersoldaten - with vet3 they dish out insane amounts of damage over long range and can also fire on the move, but better survivabilty to explosions (6 men) and much cheaper to reinforce. They are definitely leages ahead than any infantry the Wehrmacht has to offer.

Rilfes with double 1919s perform similar, and are also super good. (Maybe too good, the 1919 needs to be looked at)


M8A1 Howitzer. I haven't seen any OP threads about this vehicle yet, but i kinda expect it over time.

It's like a SU76, but better in almost every way.
-the autofire actually murders infantry and has also 60 range
-it can fire indirect
-turret, better mobility
-smoke with vet
-crew can repair itself, other tanks and can cap
-barrage is more or less the same, perfect against MGs and PAKs
-only costs 5 more fuel

With proper micro, this unit can deal safely with the fearful Volksgrenadier-Schreck-blob better than the Sherman.


M36. A fast turreted tank destroyer with 60 range that can penetrate everything with the vet ability. Nothing new to say there.


These three units alone, coupled with a forward retreat point and healing, can deal with almost anything that the OKW or Wehrmacht late game has to offer. They are only a few exceptions, the Jagdtiger and Walking stuka can cause problems that can be hard to overcome in my experience.

But still, i feel the USA late game is strong in the right hands. And that's the only real downside: It's considerably harder to micro multiple vehicles that die in 2-3 shots. The M8A1 and M36 have to been babysitted at all times and must kept constantly at range against any AT units. One late reverse move and you are guaranteed to lose a unit.

In other words: Playing other factions, i feel i can play them to about 90% efficiency on a good day. Playing USA however, i can only play them at about 60% efficiency - there's just so much to do, microing tank crews, positioning the ambulance truck and time the healing and so on... i know there is always one thing that can be microed better.

I'm not a high APM player, that's exactly why i play CoH2, but i can see the (late game) potential that the USA has. I would say it doesn't lack powerful units, rather the players lack the ability and perseverance to use them to the fullest.

Pretty cool, was planning to go there myself. They still have the King Tiger and Jagdpanther there, right? Eagerly awaiting some pics!

since this forum is all about complaining about the war spoil and commander system recently, i make yet another post about that stuff:

Hmmm. Most of the lower players i encountered tend to overlook their own lack of ability and like to blame something else first for their loss. These kind of people don't know how, can't or want to improve their skill. We can agree on that.


But now let me spread some toxic:

what wins you games? i tell you: mind, strategy and tactics. the commanders are neither pay2win nor an i-win button. i play this ghame since beta and tackled a lot of stuff (e.g. the pio-terminator phase), however ive NEVER seen ANY commander i couldnt beat with some thinking.

That's not true. With equal players, the Tiger ace -in its former glory- will always give you an edge. Sure it's beatable if your opponent is much worse than you. But no amount of thinking will prevail against a competent player.

the bulletins barely make any difference. why is everyone so keen on them?

The only bulletin that mattered was the broken 10% suppression on the MG42. And it mattered a lot.

the forum reactions however show me how superficial people are. complaining that you have to gind...i mean wtf... nobody forces you to grind... try to get more used to the core mechanics and improve your macro and build orders.

Or you can drive a WC51 with rifles and kill/force every OKW unit off the field in the first minutes, and one-shot basebuildings with the 155mm artillery later on (pre-patch). Or you can get vet2 rifles without any additional cost. If you got the commander, of course.

The bottom line is: Some things give you an unfair (dis-)advantage. The necessity to have better "core mechanics" and macro than the opponent is exactly that.