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The stars were no indicator of your opponent's skill level. I would prefer the system of COH 1 to be honest.

I think 99% of us are in agreement with that.

BUT there's a lot of resistance here by the Dev's to make the game "friendly" for all...

Oh you lost? Here, have some XP and look - even though you got completely thrashed - you gained a numeric rank that is indicative of the XP we just gave you...

Yay - we're ALL WINNERS!

This unfortunately makes for a dull experience - I miss the days of playing a higher ranked opponent where their bars were on the line - and so if I won, I got a level up - and if they lost - they lost their rank. The game MEANT something.

Right now - there's no repercussions for good or bad play - its simply just "meh".

This is also the reason I'm assuming we'll never get lobbies - as people who simply CAN'T play well will get kicked from the lobby - a true indicator "rank" or win/loss is removed to make it even more difficult to identify poor players - hence the removal of ANY indicator now of the players "XP accumulation" even.

The problem here is in team games - as who wants to invest an hour of their life struggling in a co-op game with somebody who's been "matched" that really doesn't play very well?

Considering there's no repercussion to simply dropping - if I was feeling like playing "Russian Roulette" and played 2 v 2 automatch without a friend - meaning all 3 other players were "randoms" - then I was rolling the dice in getting a partner that either could or couldn't play. Seeing a name with say zero stars indicated that the player had limited hours on the game - doesn't mean they're a bad player - but you knew there was a bigger possibility that they were.

So instead of addressing the problem directly - by implementing lobbies that worked since Day 1 of vCoh - we have this Nanny State BS. The excuse of smurfing is long gone given the Steam integration - its simply stubbornness now.

These changes were implemented to make it a "happy" environment for "all"....

You're trying to say that not knowing your opponents 'strength' before the game is what turns people away?
For real?

No - I'm saying that you stated the current system of player skill description that was implemented in DOW2 wasn't good - and that the current state of DOW2 is tantamount to that.

In addition to clarify - as it seems you're having an issue grasping what the majority of others on this thread have an understanding of - is that the current "rank" system - or lack there of - is a bad thing.

It eliminated competition between players as the loss (or win) has no immediate impact on the player - also the rank is not descriptive of the players actual ability as a "star" or "level" is achieved simply by playing - be it vs a PC opponent or online - and those points are rewarded even for failure - in this case - defeat.

To summarize - due to the automatch system of putting random players together - SOME players would gauge the skill of their TEAM MATE or OPPONENT based on the only metric made available - which is STARS - which - unlike vCOH - have ZERO connection to player skill.

SOME players would simply quit the game is the stars didn't equate for them - ie. opponents had more stars or their team mate had less stars.

I'm not sure where you're getting lost here - unless of course you're just digging for an argument like you do in the multitude of threads you seem to like to crap on.

It worked like that in DoW2 as well, you didn't knew opponents ELO/army level(like the latter matters at all) unless you finished the game.

And we all see how many people still play DOW2 and how many people still play vCOH.....

considering my friends and i do it quite often, and im sure noise has as well, the answer is yes, the 222 will make it. he most likely wont get out alive, but thats a very good trade for the germans.

im not sure what makes you think a p4 push will be more successful than a 222. the p4 is slower, a lot more obvious, and much more expensive, so its riskier. the soviet will just reverse his kat into his base when he sees a p4 trying to hunt it down. then you run into cons/guards and you have 115 fuel stuck behind enemy lines

I have to say it's impressive if you can pull that off.

BUT

If that's the only purpose a 222 can do - i.e. a counter to an equally poorly pathed - yet T4 unit - and the 222 is a T2 that SHOULD be able to counter T1/T2 units rather than just a niche T4 counter....I call that a pretty much useless unit.

Yes, that's exactly what you'd do. It's insanely cheap, if you know where the katy is, it's going to be worth sacrificing the 222 to zip around around back, even into their base, and kill a Katyusha. It kills them almost instantly.

And you think it'd make it?

Also - just one Con with an AT nade near that Kat and your 222 is toast.