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Thread: Worldbuilder just crashes instead of starting up.13 Nov 2013, 02:18 AM Lol. In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: Soviet scout car bug on Semoskiy13 Nov 2013, 02:17 AM Lol. In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: Victory at Stalingrad on next week 11 Nov 2013, 17:55 PM Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2013, 09:32 AMBeardedOaf Personally I'm just pleased by how regularly the game is being patched and updated. Ya but the game isn't being patched particularly well. That's the point. Each new patch twists things and just screws things up even more while attempting to balance something else. I've said it 100 times already, but, to me, this game lacks a clear vision in what it wants the meta to be. Further, they have yet to address basic issues with the game (technical, chat rooms, lobbies, leaderboards, etc) and have failed to reinstate player morale after a lackluster release. Instead of asking people to buy new commanders, they should be asking themselves why many people have quit playing or are playing less. Hint - It's not because they want to PAY more for features that you aren't providing already Why sell DLC commanders that will just haunt the balance of this game further and compound what seems to be an already arduous task? Why not improve the state of the game you have first (the aforementioned basic issues), let it settle, and then release the dlc? Maybe then the community will be more willing to shell out money for DLC with a game in a stable state. They might be excited additions to the game instead of being overly speculative. Also, the price point of these items is just ridiculous. Different regions paying less or more? Give me a break. What are we not in a globalized society? Relic has to pay shipping costs on Steam or something? In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: How I feel about paid commanders.10 Nov 2013, 21:32 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2013, 18:45 PMMajorBloodnok Memories can be short, Dave,judging from this post of yours. I have underlined your rightful(IMO) criticism about Roos for this purpose: vCoH was dying. It had little support from Relic,bcs people paid once for the game,and then :full stop. No dlc to maintain income. And yet, people like you, it seems, expected a fully supported game in vCoH for a one-off payment only. That was more than absurd,and so it proved. After the Roo debacle, vCoH was eventually patched (very late) in or about May 2011(?) under the volunteer efforts of primarily, Kolaris and Mora Failes, but that was as much by luck as by judgment. The 2.602 patch only materialised bcs of the abandonment of COHO, and the requirement to keep the vCoH community intact,if possible, until a new game could be released. The plain fact is that reliance upon a single payment for a game and then expecting it to last (fully maintained), like Buzz Lightyear to infinity and beyond, is unrealistic. .................. Mark my words:the original team are apparently responsible for transferring your fave of all time onto Steam...it is not yet done,as you very well know. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Now for some comparisons in RL: if I go to a provincial restaurant in my country, dinner for 2 will cost me far in excess of the Stalingrad TOW and add-ons; so will 3 pints of beer in London; or the cost of 2 to see a film at the cinema. Stalingrad and its add-ons will (for me) be slightly more than the cost of 20 cigarettes. Do you see the point? Get real, FFS You're missing vital information. You probably should do some research before you write such an expanded post of misinformation and telling me to "get real". VCoH or Vanilla COH = Wehr vs US - That was what COH was like out of the box. The British and PE were then added through subsequent expansion "packs" - Tales of Valor/Opposing Fronts which cost something like 30 bucks a piece, might have been more at release. Most people ended up paying over 100 bucks for the entire CoH experience. Again, with the release of OF and ToV half of the initial COH community left because they disagreed with the way this new group of developers were taking the game. It was not a very good experience. There was, I'd say, one good community-agreed upon state of balance for the final version of COH and that was the patch prior to the final one. I may be wrong there. It's a simple conclusion. The people who bought this game are getting screwed by lackluster service and features that are now elementary by industry standards. What Relic has done to CE purchasers is pretty much a shame and will guarantee loss of future profits on this particular franchise. Further, what they are planning to implement with this DLC model is a general slap in the face of the dedicated players of their game. Whether you think it costs you 20 cigarettes or a night out on the town to purchase this dlc is irrelevant. Using your analogy, if I forced you to buy 20 cigarettes in order to get laid on your night out, you'd probably be pretty pissed. In: Lobby
Thread: Victory at Stalingrad on next week 9 Nov 2013, 08:10 AM Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2013, 07:43 AMLe Wish Everything wasnt fine and dandy at release I give you that. But I think all patches have been for the better (with the exclusion of the initial launch of osttruppen and assgrens). Now if you know that the ToV team is doing this AND you seem to have a problem with them, why did you bother in the first place? Why do you keep bothering? If you dont like the game or devs, why do you stick here and post cranky posts? Bitter much? Because I paid 60+ dollars to be able to. I asked for my money back very quickly after release as well, publicly on this forum. Plus, I hate to see people kiss other people's ass for no good reason what so ever. What you don't understand is that the supporting framework to hold up and support this kind of system simply doesn't exist in this game or @ the Relic office. Archaic network stability, technical issues with blizzards, I've been over this 1 million times in other threads. Christ, there are STILL NO FUCKING CHAT LOBBIES OR ACCESSIBLE LEADERBOARDS SAVE FOR A COMMUNITY FAN SITE. It's a complete regression from their last effort. Yet, they want to charge you dupes for more commanders that will throw the balance out of the window for God knows how many weeks until some savior patch comes (insert a picture of you bending over thanking them and asking for another), and then BOOM more commanders. The cycle starts all over again. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit. Like fucking wake up, seriously. If Relic wanted this game to not suck, they'd address all the technical issues and all the other basic crap that makeup not just an rts but a basic 21st century online video game FIRST. They'd pump money into promoting tournaments and feedback that could give them more data for how the game should go from here. They'd deal with sync hacks/drop hacks/all known cheating issues. They'd institute community outreach programs like this: *HEY FILL OUT THIS ONLINE SURVEY ABOUT TECHNICAL AND GAMEPLAY ISSUES AND GET THIS NEW COMMANDER* ^^^That's a decent approach to start with. Right now it looks like "Hey, buy these commanders, trust us. We'll fix the game." Meanwhile their trust rating is about as good as the people who keep drop/sync hacking in their game without any recourse - fucking shady at best. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Victory at Stalingrad on next week 9 Nov 2013, 07:59 AM Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2013, 05:36 AMTurtle You paid 100 for a preorder where you knew exactly what you were getting. Period. Stop trying to make it more than it seems and own up to your poor financial judgement. All the information was there right in front of you. This silly argument needs to stop, because the entirety of your butthurtness seems to emanate from that. Heck, I even know the collector's edition was crap the moment I saw it, all collector's editions are that. It is your fault for falling into that trap. What's more, Sega sets the CE contents, not Relic. Wolfenstein and all its iterations were full priced back when they were released. As is CoH2. Not sure where you're going with this line because it just sounds like more general butthurtedness. DLC commanders can work and can be balanced. And yes, I agree that their initial application had a ton of problems. And even if they were released balance, they would still need further patches as the meta shifts. Basilone is just one player, of a larger community that overall is having fun in the game. It's the same butthurtness in him that I see in you for calling everyone else names just because he doesn't like something. And the game does have problems, I've expressed them many times. And a bunch have been fixed already, and they keep getting fixed. Lastly, if you are that butthurt about the game, just leave it and the community instead of trying to call everyone else names and expecting everyone to see your oh so glorious wisdom, when in reality all we see is someone that stupidly paid too much for yet another crap collector's edition and is now whining is face off about it. I'm watching CoH2's post release development closely and I actually am prepared to leave the game and the community if Relic/Sega shows that is unwilling or incapable of releasing a balanced paid DLC commander. I've done it before, and I've already gotten my money's worth out of CoH2 from the campaign, ToW, and what I played of MP. I'll leave satisfied with the game, but disappointed with Relic and Sega, but there's plenty of other games to play. I don't have the collector's edition. Although I can totally identify with those who did and felt screwed. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: How I feel about paid commanders.9 Nov 2013, 05:13 AM Con!, If you played COH you would know that before the game was "stale", as you understand it, it was almost unplayable because Relic refused for the longest time to do anything about Kangaroos being into your base by 7 minutes and then crushing your troops over and over again. Before that, trenches and gliders crushed all your people. The PE infantry spam and ACs were ridiculous. ToV represents this shift where relic nose dived from legendary to comically insane. VCoH and CoH+TOV were done by separate teams if I remember correctly. The TOV expansion caused ridiculous problems to the game essentially ruining a perfect rts and running off over 3/4s of the initial community. Guess who is in charge of this game? The track record simply isn't there. Nothing that they have said or done in this game thus far has been anything to the contrary of a big fucking letdown and this is about to make it even worse. Mark my words. In: Lobby
Thread: Victory at Stalingrad on next week 9 Nov 2013, 05:03 AM First of all, I have issue with your last sentence. Some people paid 100 bucks on a preorder and then got royally fucking screwed by Relic. I mean they were just T-total shafted, and the people who bought the CE were probably the most loyal of COH fans. Not even an apology was uttered. It was more of a passive aggressive comment that came from Noun of, "We never said that" Further, so because something "works" (the limits of the definition of work are up for debate here) that's ok in late 2013 to warrant a total price of a 150$ mediocre at best video game? Wolfenstein worked too. I fucked Hitler up something fierce. I paid 10 bucks or something. That being said, it's one thing if they charged these micro-transactions and had an established record of updates and a clear cut vision for this game. Unfortunately, they don't and they haven't since the ToV team took over from the last game. Each patch has been a massive clusterfuck of change. It will be a never ending cycle and when this turnip has been fully bled, Relic will bounce to another game or be disbanded, which ever comes first, with their loot. Only the daft don't see the pattern which has emerged. To charge money for something that will only cause more headaches for people and require more updates and patches is completely wrong. However, it's genius if you want to sell more assault grens and ostruppen to people who want to win. I think Basilone said it to me best over Steam "This game is for noobs, by noobs" He's exactly right. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Victory at Stalingrad on next week 9 Nov 2013, 04:03 AM You people are being scammed and you're either A. too stupid to realize it or B. too blind to care. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: CoH2 Patch News!5 Nov 2013, 18:46 PM Trolled like a boss. In: Lobby