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Always 1 model; it needs to be possible to counter snipe the sniper AND remove the vet its gained, other wise it will always be imbalanced.

Snipers are inherently high risk:reward units. On one hand, every shot is a guaranteed 20-40mp drain on the enemy. On the other, one shot can cost you 360mp and vet. Disrupting that risk factor basically ruins sniper play, since one player is risking 360mp AND all vet whereas the other is risking a reinforcement cost.

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Pretty much all of that, but also:

1. CoH1 Pio 'Negative zeal' on every single infantry unit. Have it start scaling after 2 units are nearby (so 1-2 squads ok, more = strong nerfs), giving increased received suppression and reduced accuracy or rate of fire. Moving 4+ squads around should be pretty much impossible in combat. There would need to be an icon showing if this was in effect, and how many nearby units are causing it (i.e. show negative zeal stacks). It should also not effect or come from support weapons, since avoiding being near your own static weapon crews wouldn't allow for very good support play.

2. Remove 'double upgrades' and any 'weapon drop' abilities. Double-upgraded squads should be very rare, not incredibly common. This includes bars, brens, DP28s, Shrecks, Bazookas, Piats, etc. Basically everything that isn't a 'role-change' upgrade (i.e. PPSH, MP40, G43s, etc.).

3. Replace all emplacements with mobile variants. They would have less HP than current emplacements, and could be decrewed, but would be mobile with a longer setup time. This would make building emplacement cities much worse, but still give static defenses a role. To prevent being decrewed instantly, grant a 50% rec. accuracy vs. snipers when setup. I also give an exception to MG bunkers (all team variants) and heavy arty, since mobile heavy arty would be a nightmare to counter, and MG bunkers are pretty weak.

Bofors/Flak -> infantry crewed/towed OKW 'flak ht' type thing.
17lb/PAK88 -> bigger crewed AT. Slower, but more range and damage than standard AT.
Mortar pit -> normal mortar

4. Remove infantry crush. It's funny (or frustrating) when it happens, but far too inconsistent to be balanced. Forcing infantry to move (and not fire) is pretty good already.

5. Reduce tank AOE vs. Infantry, but upgrade their MG power. Tanks should be good vs. infantry, but insta-wiping 3+ models isn't fun to play with/against. A more consistent DPS would be easier to balance.

6. No 'exception to the rule' type units/mechanics.

No 2 model sniper squads since it prevents counter-sniping
No '1-man mortar crew retreat' since it's inconsistent with the rest of the game
No 'brace' since it's only on 1 teams emplacements (and should be removed as per #3)
No reduced reinforce cost from vet since REs are the only unit with this
No 'mg outranging snipers' since snipers should hard-counter MGs.

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I think those combined with Elchino7's ideas would result in a pretty solid game.

Also the general "bug fixes, performance improvements, less crashes, improved UX, etc.", but that's pretty much expected of a sequel.

It seems you want to equalize specific units to balance things, but not take into account that they need to fight units of different strength. This wouldn't really work for a few reasons.

(interesting points below, but I didn't read the entire post first, so I put that stuff in spoilers)
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Every faction being a mirror of each other isn't what people want. The problem is that certain units are over-performing in certain roles across entire sides of the game. Allied mainline infantry IS in general better than axis mainline infantry in pretty much every role except long-range static combat, which isn't very common in CoH2.

It's similar to how Axis tanks were better than allied tanks at pretty much everything until the DBP. That's fixed now, and the game is much better for it (no more mass-panther spam), but the same problem still exists with infantry, and it needs to be addressed. Sure, it might not as bad as the tank situation was, but it's still a significant problem that's facing the game; and one that could easily be changed by just limiting squads to 1 purchasable weapon upgrade. That's all people are asking for.

Why should 708 manpower, 70 fuel, 170 munition squads be weaker than 240 manp, 60 muni squads?

That isn't an accurate comparison. In a vacuum, double BAR'd rifles cost 280mp (squad) + 150mp/15f (weapon racks) + 120muni (double bars), totaling 430mp/15f/120muni, whereas LMG grens cost 240mp (squad) + 100mp/40f (T1 tech) + 60muni totaling 340mp/40f/60muni. The thing is, though, even with an extra 60muni, you still can't double-upgrade grens, so the muni argument is kind of moot since spending extra isn't a possibility for one side.

So really it's "Why should a 430mp/15f squad be weaker than a 340mp/40f squad?".

The answer is, they should be about the same; 90mp for 35f is a pretty good trade.

I was always more fond of the idea that when it goes down to 1 model it is unable to fire and has to be reinforced.

I actually like this idea a lot. I doubt we'd actually be able to get a squad size change, but that kind of mechanical change is a lot more likely. The only thing is, the reinforce cost would need to be pretty high (200mp+), since you're basically getting a 2nd chance to save sniper vet.

Useless because it would be like the brit one but without any of the useful bits. You would literally be better off getting a mortar. Worse becauae you would be paying the same as an ost player for their sniper for the same durability but less offensive capability.

Make the sniper take longer to train, make the extra model more expensive and take longer to reinforce, buff the counters. Do NOT make it literally a shittier clone of the ost one with shittier stats and shittier vet. Mentioned above the cooldown on the soviet sniper is 4 times longer than the ost one.

The brit one at least offers support with the target ability and arty flares and doesnt have to retreat to base to heal up when a gren lands an lmg burst on it. The soviet sniper will have NO CHOICE but to retreat to base and would offer nothing but being slow AF at killing infantry.

Alright, I can see your point, but what would you suggest then? Keeping it as 2-model squad seems to be flawed, since it makes countering it too difficulty/tricky/expensive (can't counter snipe, 222 buffs ruin brit snipers, mortar RNG is too luck dependent).

I'm not seeing a lot of options for a 1-man sov sniper that isn't statistically worse than the Ost and Brit snipers; it can't have the ROF of the OST sniper (since it would wipe OST 4-man squads too quickly), it can't have the anti-vehicle power of the brit sniper (would make PTRS redundant) and we can't give it much more than 82hp.