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I think a lot of perspective on how good this game will seem to you will depend on a few factors:
Your age
How you feel about the commonly implemented micro transactions in games
How long you've been playing video games.

That's all that really did it for me. I'm 27 now, I probably wont touch this game ever again but I do on occasion care bout the series so I'll hop on these boards to see how the game is doing and see if people have a positive outlook.

I've been playing video games (and RTS for that matter) since I was like 7. COH1 is easily the best rts I've ever had the pleasure to play,by far the most innovative RTS in YEARS (I started with the original Command and conquer). I started playing COH1 in 2006 or 2007, I don't remember anymore. It was hard for me to not get upset when I played the coh2 alpha / beta and the game released and it STILL felt like a beta. It felt like relic had not learned anything from "supporting" COH1 over 6 or 7 years, pretty offensive from someone who took the game as one of their go-to competitive 1v1 games for about 2-3 years (towards the ending life-cycle of the game) AND relic would continue to say they genuinely planned on supporting the competitive community. This ended up to be not true.

Now that I've got that out of the way, the stale air has passed and I think coh2 is a great game. HOWEVER, they still have a shitty pay 2 win model everyone will defend to death. I've watched gaming evolve into what it is today, and I miss the days where you would release expansion packs and provide new content that everyone can enjoy within a year or two of release that didn't feel like it was chopped apart from the main game. Unfortunately gaming has changed, and this is what we have. Realistically, it isn't that bad but you feel feel at a disadvantage at times when you are unfamiliar with the commanders you don't own in the beginning and some crazy ability gets used on you or strong OP tank and you can't figure out how to counter it.

If you are looking for a competitive 1v1 RTS, I would avoid coh2. If you're looking for good 2v2 matches, coh2 is probably better. I even ended up giving up on 1vs1 like... 1/4 of the way through my playtime with the game. I had a group of friends we played 3v3 / 4v4 with and honestly just spent our time abusing glitches and OP strategies. That was what was fun to us so I mean it is what it is. I'm sure the community is better off now that we're out of the player pool, lol.

So, if you aren't like me, don't have bad blood towards relic, prefer team games (probably 2v2) then you will really enjoy the game. If you're looking for a competitive 1vs1 you would get better satisfaction playing tic tac toe with yourself because the game is JUST as predictable. That's my 2 cents.

I'm honestly not even certain why they stream with absolutely nothing to say. Rest In Peter.

When I was a noob I also thought that way about INFANTRY vet.

But I still think that way about Wehr armor vet. Vet on US armor is not huge and lends nothing to a units survivability. Wehr armor vet adds survivability (received damage reduction, more hitpoints, reduced penetration chances, and free anti-infantry). And it isn't like Wehr armor needs added strength to punch through US armor.

Yea, but you got less units on the field for better units. Easy to overwhelm. That was the point, US was quick fast dirty attackers who overwhelm their enemy vs the better armed better equipped superior heavy and less numerical units. I found it fun (not to mention US vet was epic) Vet 2 / 3 rifles with a shrek? Yes please. It forced american player to CONSERVE their units, so if you went balls deep attack (since your units were better at attacking, right?) it would stop you from suiciding squads, making a cool back and forth mechanic. You needed those rifles to kill too, so you had to flank around MG's to get that vet, and play careful but still be aggressive. I don't know, I like how it forced players to think, it was appreciated.

Attack me i am the rotten core of this community. Good job. My point is people tend to bash this game for everything and blame relic all day long. I am the one that likes this game and maybe it has some problems with balance but i am still playing it. Last thing the problem with COH Franchise is the fact that the community is a little to fanatic about it.

Well, anytime you go about telling community members to leave you are part of the problem. Maybe you should take some accountability for your actions and also reflect on how treating members of the community might effect the outcome of the game.

Relic deserves a bit of bashing in some ways. Yes, some players take it too far but relic also promised a lot of things and didn't deliver. If you are new to the community I'm sorry you don't understand. There's history to this game and there are some past issues and to ignore them is ignorant in a sense.

Lastly, a lot of vcoh players stick around because they care about the franchise. Most of us want the game to succeed so we don't watch our favorite franchise die. It's not that hard to comprehend. We give input because these are the things that drew us to COH in the first place. For some reason they decided to take away a lot of these core game elements and dumb it down. This is disappointing and to be honest probably isn't that hard to change. Personally, I don't see the game lasting much longer because it doesn't have a good mix of arcade and realism, like the first game did. It doesn't feel like a true sequel. I see it dying, the community dissipating, and when people look back they'll go "why didn't the community help to improve the game?". Well, then we'll find posts like yours and see some people, like you, were too complacent with a mediocre game and at the same time being negative towards other players with absolutely 0 empathy. So yes, you are part of the problem. Help the game don't make it stagnate. And in no way shape or form is telling players to leave going to help, you know that, I know that, we all know that so quit playing the victim.

the maxim will never be a glass cannon.

Glad there's well thought out optimists like you. Guess I'll just put on my happy face and assume this can never change.