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The British sniper "snare" doesn't effect the movement speed of tanks, so that's a stretch. If you count that but don't count the pak and stug abilities that makes no sense to me

None of those are good reasons to give volks a longer range snare by default

It could be argued that they perhaps should have it? Can you just take a stance if you're gonna respond to mine?


Doing this as they are nerfing light vehicle strategies across the board doesn't seem like a good idea

The British sniper snare does actually snare all light vehicles, up to and including the Luchs. Against heavier tanks it doesn't, sure, but this can be considered reasonable given it's range. I'm not counting the PAK or Stug as they are unable to snare anything at all, on top of them being dedicated AT platforms rather than infantry. This is still an ability to snare at range that OKW simply does not possess.

Im not sure what you want. I stated my stance, I don't think volks necessarily need a longer ranged snare. How much more clear do i need to be?

When you say these strategies are being nerfed "Across the board", you're just talking about the T-70, AEC, and WC-51, right? The WC-51 is going to be somewhat less dominant, certainly, and the T-70 being toned down is certainly nice, but they're still going to be very powerful units, the AEC isn't exactly built for its ability to obliterate infantry, incidentally. Also: Only the WC-51 would be affected by an earlier Faust timing, given that the T70 and AEC come onto the field after an OKW player will have placed his first truck.

Is Grenadier's early Faust not a problem, incidentally? An earlier Faust for OKW wouldn't be going to give them some unique strength there, it would just put them relatively close to par with OST against early ULVs. (Lower range on their fausts, but OKW do not build team weapons early, and so would generally have an extra snare-capable squad over OST)

Reduced is a strange way of putting it. Same range as snares on riflemen (until vet 3), cons, royal engineers, and tank-hunter infantry sections. Why should it be longer?

I suppose it can be argued that Axis troops are generally faced with rather more threatening light vehicles(T-70 being the main culprit there), and similarly earlier, actually threatening Ultralight vehicles (WC-51, scout car, etc).

All three allied factions also have inbuilt methods to extend their snare range, whereas OKW and OST do not. Conscripts can sprint, Riflemen get an extension at vet3 (This is obviously only impactful lategame), and the British do still have their Sniper Snare. "Stun Shot" on PAKs and Stugs I feel is not quite comparable, before anyone mentions it.

I'm not exactly sure Volks "need" a longer ranged snare, like Grenadiers have, but I can certainly see how it could be argued they perhaps "should" have it.

Honestly I would like if they got it earlier at the very least. They're terribly vulnerable to certain light vehicle strategies, to the degree that PF doctrines are often used "solely" to help mitigate that weakness.

I've never really understood why people compare Panzerfusiliers to Penals of all things, when they wish to talk about PFs' strength. I'm really not sure what's supposed to be similar about the two units.

Penals are an expensive "semi-elite" shock unit, intended to overpower axis infantry early, but don't scale terribly well into the lategame (Though they're not as helpless as people state). PFs on the other hand are a "more expensive than usual" line infantry, that starts out very weak in combat terms, but is able to scale fantastically into the late game (When substantially invested into with Munitions, and once they reach veterancy 2+).

Penals aren't a fantastically designed unit, and still need quite a lot of work, but the specific comparison between them and PFs has always struck me as rather odd. What is the reasoning behind it?

In any case, I don't think Fusiliers are particularly overpowered, even with their sixth man upgrade. You sacrifice a fair amount in the early game (Though you do have a vital snare you otherwise lack) and a large investment of munitions to attain a very solid line infantry unit lategame. Is their shrecked performance noticeably better than Panzergrenadiers', incidentally?

USF and UKF stock planes are an entirely different topic than OKW flares, honestly.

Honestly, even as an Axis "main" I agree that Spec Ops flares are far too good, and should be replaced, or given to some unit in the OKW arsenal as a fireable, rather than being an offmap. (In team modes. In 1v1 they don't pose as much of an issue, despite being uncounterable)

Volks get sandbags because they cannot justify building a second Engineer unit, which would leave their Sturmpioneers absurdly overburdened if they possessed the only way for OKW to produce green cover.

The other examples you might like to point to are UKF, who get Sandbags on IS because they are unable to build Engineers until a few minutes into the game, and USF, who get Tank Traps instead, which have their own utility (Though they're rarely used as actual tank traps)

Basically, if Volks didn't have Sandbags, the faction may as well not get them at all. Volks having sandbags is more understandable than Cons having them, if we're being entirely honest. At least Soviet might be able to actually have two units out that would be able to build them.