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Are u sure that info is entirely accurate?

I know about Grens having cooldown bonus; always assumed its a compensation for being the least suitable for snaring, out of all the other units

Didnt know about the volks and bosstruppen though, nor the range discrepancies

Are u sure there wasnt that "increase snare range" bulletin involved (Guess we can all agree that specific bulletin is a cancerous BS)

If ure right, thx for an interesting discovery

yeah they are correct no bulletin was used

I mean... It's a 210mp unit that gets increased armour and repair speed.... What more do you want out of it? Should it be fighting off obers? Or mainline infantry with a similar amount of munitions invested? The heavy snapper isn't meant to make sappers a Tommy replacement, it's meant to allow them to contribute if they must. If you are complaining about the combat performance you are using it wrong.

Basicly look at it like this: without the upgrade your sappers are NOT going to be fighting at all. They are going to be repairing. With the upgrade they repair faster AND can sit on the fringes of fights and generate extra value in the time they saved repairing. They are not suddenly shock troops, but they are available to HELP (not carry)

Thas wrong without the upgrade iam able to snare vehicles and engage cc against units like grenadiers or osttruppen.
With the upgrade i cant snare since they are to slow and i have to stay back and even then they can't defend themselves against a chasing squad or a long range lmg unit.
And even their repair speed isn't impressively good, since every other pioneer squad get boosted repair speed with mine sweeper.
I would give them just the armor and the repair speed bonus for less munition without the movement penalty

And the heavy sappers upgrade is bad for their combat performance, the single vickers is to weak and the other sten guns do no dmg over range + the ridiculous movement penalty

There are more things that need to looked at it:

- Heavy Sappers is a very bad Design

- Double Bren feels more like a downgrade rather then a upgrade since it lowers your mid to close range DPS to much, maybe bren should limit to 1 but buff it to compensate like a lmg gren.

- The Centaur movement and acceleration speed got overnerfed.
It was always compared to the Ostwind and how much better it was (it was, no doubt), then it got nerfed and a few patches the Ostwind got buffed. It's like the other way around Ostwind feels like the old Centaur and the Centaur is just awful.

- Sinper should get increased fire rate with vetrancy, it's low fire rate compared to the ostherr sniper was always argued that the ost sniper has to fight against larger squad sizes. But in piratical game as UKF u fight vs 6 men Osttruppen, 5 men Jäger-Grenadiers, 5 men Volksgreandiers, 5 Men Assault grens etc.

- The Vickers-MG should get more spreaded suppression and lower its DMG to compensate

- The Land Mattress reload time is way to high and also its rocket dmg against cover got overnerfed

- The new Assault officer bleed u to much

- General no good, no doctrinal, anti garrisons tools --> lower grenade unlock cost

- Still no good indirect fire support

Observation mode from the Valentine leaves a permanent visual "Radar signal" on the map where it was activated