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Thread: coh2stats "lie" or can be misinterpreted13 Nov 2021, 23:18 PM I mean, as usual, you should not switch your brain off when reading data. There's a lot of reasons why the data can look as it does. I am happy though that the site exists, even despite the fact that there will always be some idiots that cannot interpret data properly or only accept their own line of argumentation. But that has nothing to do with the site itself. The site aggregates data and has some basic visualization. It doesn't mislead, although it could show the uncertainty in the data a little bit better. But this often requires some deeper knowledge in statistics. However, the data will only get stronger the longer the site exists. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: New Leaderboard and playercard13 Nov 2021, 09:35 AM Jump back to quoted post12 Nov 2021, 22:53 PMpagep Hi guys New update on the player cards. Now it shows also AI games and custom games. The right top info "card" has also changed - previously it was calculated from all the games. Now it's calculated only from ranked games. Isildur example: Or here is player with lot of AI games https://coh2stats.com/players/76561198132689304 Cheers pagep Very neat addition! Out of interest, could you look up how the number of games or the total play time of AI games, custom games and ranked games compare? It would give a good indication how much of the community is actually participating in ranked matches. Is this doable somehow, at least with some random selection of players to estimate? I know that you don't have complete data on every game that is being played, but might there be a way to do it? In: Lobby
Thread: Sturmtiger over nerfed 11 Nov 2021, 09:19 AM Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2021, 17:45 PMNorthWeapon ...Plz, everybody stop comparing two units from either team as if they are the same.... Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2021, 19:34 PMullumulu St cant be upgraded with commander. yes...other tank like panther and p4 get commander..but wait...most brits tanks get this to. even without a special doctrine Well, this somehow makes a point in itself... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Can we revive Mechanized?10 Nov 2021, 15:28 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2021, 09:58 AMVipper Think he is referring to the tournament where the majority of games where Ostruppen vs Mechanized. Wasn't this AE's Chaos Krieg tournament with 250 VPs? In this case it's not very surprising that players go for strong early game strategies. Although Osttruppen have dominated at least one other, "normal" tournament iirc. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Can we revive Mechanized?9 Nov 2021, 18:02 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2021, 16:34 PMMMX ah yes that makes sense. i'll try that, thanks! i've probably asked you before but how did you get to your estimate regarding the percentage of scatter hits again? I tested a modded Panther, SU85, I think a StuG and something else to shoot at a T34 or P4, respectively and counted some shots. Can't fully recall the range though, maybe I also tested two distances. But those 0.5-0.6 is really just a rule of thumb, nothing more. It was not the most thorough testing I have ever done, but I think it is reasonably close to what I have seen so far. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Can we revive Mechanized?9 Nov 2021, 13:24 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2021, 03:55 AMMMX Note that these assume every shot hits as I haven't wrapped my head around how to properly add hit chance into the pen binary distribution yet. As long as there is no deflection damage there is no functional difference between a miss and a bounce. You can just multiply pen chance with hit chance. Scatter hits are a different topic and depend on what you want to 'simulate'. For standing targets, 50-60% of scatter shots still hit on max range as a rule of thumb. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: When Relic call that an anti-tank gun5 Nov 2021, 17:15 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2021, 15:00 PMVipper Just because there is RNG involved that does not mean that there is no skill involved. Coh2 is not like playing the lottery and knowing which risk are worth taking and which are not, is part of that Skill. When it comes to tank combat, one will probably lose as many games as one will win due to RNG and that number will be significantly lower to number of games he will lose or win due to skill level. RNG is there to make players adapt to the tactical situation else it will become more about the economic skill and less about tactical skill. If one does not like RNG one can play RTS games with little to no RNG factors. I never said otherwise, so I am not sure which point you are trying to make here. Fact is, you can make the correct play and use your unit well, yet get no reward at all. This happens regularly. Not all of these events are game deciding, but they enough to notice. These are not one-in-a-thousand occurrences, by far not. Adding deflection damage does not transform CoH2 into chess, not even if it were introduced on every single unit. As you say, RNG should constantly force you to adapt to and re-evaluate the situation, but it should not decide games on its own. To come somewhat back to the topic, or at least a previous topic since this is getting out of hand: Deflection damage on some units can mitigate "unfair" RNG and help them back into meta builds. The existence of deflection damage does not make armor useless, armor still has a great role of reducing damage even against those units. And this was the original point where I quoted you. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: When Relic call that an anti-tank gun5 Nov 2021, 14:50 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2021, 14:34 PMVipper Yes there is. If a person plays enough game he get both "good" and "bad" RNGs. Problem is perception one since many that people tend to remember only the "bad" RNG that "cost" the game they had won by playing "better" and the good RNG that give them victory when they actually played worse. This is completely missing the point. Both of these are stupid and should be diminished as much as possible. Your good RNG is your opponent's bad RNG. Either way, the game has been decided by RNG and not by skill. Anyway, my point is that there rarely are enough "RNG checks" in a single game to even out. You're not going to have 10 Panthers with each of them having 10 engagements so that one or two dying by RNG won't matter as much. You're going to have 1-2. If you lose one of them because every shot is penetrating (insert Hans meme here), that is game changing. Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2021, 14:34 PMVipper ... No one in this thread seriously suggested otherwise. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: When Relic call that an anti-tank gun5 Nov 2021, 14:11 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2021, 13:20 PMVipper On the flip side when someone pays for armor one should expect to get something in return and deflection damage can negate that. You still get something for it: only a fraction of the full damage. Obviously armor is not AS important as before then, but deflection damage does not fully invalidate it. Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2021, 13:20 PMVipper The fact that armor provide a hit roll might seem important in some cases and might look odd on extreme RNG rolls but in the long run over all the shot fired it works as intended since when enough number of are the odd even out. The problem is that there rarely is a "over the long run" in CoH2. Single units are highly valuable, losing or keeping one due to some low probability RNG decides games regularly. Making all tanks one-shottable and just differ in their armor value would also even out in the long run, but not in a single game. That's why people flock towards higher reliability units. Panther instead of JP4 or StuG. This is why AoE profiles have been broadened on so many units, and also why in general units rather got HP and lost armor than the other way around. Deflection damage would be another step into that direction. Is it desirable? Debatable, but it surely would make the game more reliable to play. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OH hulldown / Vet1 KV-1 hulldown4 Nov 2021, 12:21 PM I also think it is sometimes a bit odd how all those sand backs just fall off and everything is back to normal, but that's more a visual thing. Gameplay wise, I think a tiny nerf after getting out of hull down would be beneficial. It is just strange that this tank can instantly pounce on you once your tank got hit once or twice. However, I don't like those delays very much that prohibit your unit from movement. Maybe those can be implemented in different ways, but for example the USF ambulance has a small window of time where it won't accept orders. I have often forgotten to move it because I ordered the move command too quickly after ending the AoE heal ability. My suggestion for hull down would be an accerelation nerf for the first 1-3 seconds. This would also simulate that these tanks have been dug in below ground level (not sure about the visuals in CoH2 apart from sandbags, but at least in reality this was the case) so they have to move slightly uphill when getting out of their position. In: COH2 Gameplay