I got the feeling you are looking for a tank that can overcome any combined arms army of the axis with simple spamming. Sry dude but no. Also what do you want buffed on the t-34?
t-34 performs well with su76's and t-70's . The current meta is more emphasis on dedicated units with generalist being in a sportive role. an mg dps increase is the only thing i agree with.
t34 76 need faster reload, it was actually decent when the kv-1 and t34 got buffed together.
the t34 76 is the worst medium tank in the game beside its speed. lowest armor combined with the slowest reload(aside from panther) and least accurate gun.
I don't know what else to say if the facts are not convincing enough. The tank is crap and somehow the soviet are suppose to be satisfied with being given a crap tank at t4. |
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keep in mind that neither the tommies nor the sappers have any vehicle snare, and the PIAT can't hit moving target.
it's a different type of situation requiring different type of strategy.
Instead of trying to dodge infantry squad with at nade, you're trying to rush down an AT sniper. |
well that is why flame nade is double the price of Molotov for a munition starving faction that suffering lower MU income so that price of each flame nade is more than double of Molotov that have the same damage, also did you notice molotov is easier to set buildings on fire than Flame nade, I see many times 2 molotov set a brick building on fire, or 1 set a wood building on fire, wile I hardly see any flamenade set any building on fire. I don't see why you complaining? also cons get closer faster with Ohoraa!
but both flame nade and molotov damage on buildings like bunker and emplacements need to be look at. it is too much right now.
that's more to ability than just price.
the penal satchel cost 45 munition, same as the okw flame nade's "adjusted" price. There's no doubt the satchel is/was powerful, but at the same time it's also one of the easiest ability to dodge.
the okw flame nade is broken because it's almost undodgeable. Price alone does not excuse that face. |
All incendiary and flame weapons are OP. Inc nades should also be on SPs, they should not kill units. Instead, they should act lie WP.
Molotov is hardly op. It's easy to spot and the conscript have to spend ~2 seconds going through the awkward animation at close range.
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Yes and i already explained it to you that current meta is not in favour of medium tanks in general. even if you buff the t-34 to match the p4 with same price you will still not see it often as the stugs and jp's are still going to just as easily wreck it. If you move it to tier 3 stugs and jp's are still going to wreck it. if you make it cheaper stugs and jp's are still going to wreck it.
Seeing a pattern here?
the only "fix" to meta that's going to work is nerfing every anti-tank unit in the entire game. the t34 76 need a buff, unless virtually every axis weapon in existence get a nerf.
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Thats why it is the cheapest medium tank and 45 fuel is a lot. You are correct stats dont say everything. But look on the current meta. the time of heavy callins are gone , the stug got buffed. the result is that the okw are switching to puma's and jp4's en mass and the same goes for the ostheer. the result is that all medium tanks suffer because their are a lot more counters to them then before. And not just the t-34 but cromwell and sherman as well as i rarely see them. Both p4's suffer as well.
there's more to unit and faction balance than just matching the unit performance to its price. Right now the t34-76 is so insignificant it's just plain not worth buying.
The Panzer IV has slightly superior AoE and Scatter, and slightly better Machine Guns.
and reload as well. the panzer4 is significantly better against infantry. |
Bloody hell people. The t-34 has 30 less armour 4 less dps and 20 les penetration at long range. its far from shit.
panzer 4 avg reload is 5.5 second, and t34 76 avg reload is 6.5. a one second difference is quite bit in coh2.
4 dps is a lot. panzer4 dps is ~28 and t34 dps is around ~24. that difference is pretty big in practice.
The t34 76 also have the second lowest dps among the regular and advanced medium, being only higher than the panther.
Aoe scatter, accuracy and speed are nearly identical. Once again this unit is not a bad tank and its very cheap and cost effective for a medium tank. That the meta now revolves around dedicated TD's is not just a problem for the t-34 but for all medium tanks. ever since the soviets have gotten the su76 very few people take the p4..
Aoe, scatter, and reload are all a bit worst on the t34 76. Unfortunately all those difference do add up. There's really a point where the stats alone do not tell the whole story. |
Panther isn't technically in the same tech level as the T-34/85 if we're looking at the EFA. Yes, we always nickname them T4, but Soviet T4 =/= Ostheer T4.
considering you now need to build the sov t3 to build the sov t4, the comparison is now justified.
I think the wehr t4 is more expensive, but the sov t4 is a lot weaker. The t34 76 have always been one of the weakest link for the soviet, alongside the penal. |
and the main reason is2 fell in favor again is due to the recent buff to the tiger and tiger 2.
I feel like we are going back and forth with these buffs.
But it doesn't hit infantry reliably enough and can't take on vehicles larger than medium in most cases, so that's kind of my experience of what it does.
the is2 used to be excellent for taking on tiger and panther. it's only due to the recent buff to the tiger that the is2 seems a lot weaker.
and I've heard people complaining about the occasional grenadier wipe despite the is2's poor accuracy. Rng is a bitch. |
First of all, welcome aboard to (hopefully) a less egregious forum.
Regardign the IS2, it's more of a damage soaker and defense smasher, the problem however beign that often in COH 2 you don't see lots of defensive structures unless a game goes an hour, and even then they're often cheap and spammable, meaning the IS2's role as a spearhead and bunker buster is often redundant and reduced to aiming blindly at infantry and bouncing off tanks. As far as being a tank goes, it soaks up damage like an IS2 sized sponge to a bath of water, but dealing damage it could be tweaked to be more consistent.
the is2 deal 160 damage with a lengthy reload, and by "defensive structures" it's really down to mg bunker and the flak truck.
classifying the is2 as a "bunker buster" is really shoehorning it into a niche role.
the vet 1 capping ability would be useful on the t34 76 if the tank itself wasn't so bad. When I'm using an actually decent medium tank (pz4, cromwell, sherman) I often spot opportunity to cap after clearing out the enemies.
If there's an enemy trying cap at a relatively far away point, your medium can quickly response and then recap the point without needing to wait for your infantry. |
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