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Jump back to quoted post25 Dec 2019, 20:18 PMDerKuhlmann

so they can kill themselves faster in combat
their dps is pathetic

Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2019, 00:43 AMIncendiaryRounds

The only gripe I've ever had since they were given mp40s is that tactical assault was gutted as the mp40's midrange dps is terrible compared to the stg. Most players just retreat when u use the ability which means the unit takes little damage after the unit retreats past 10 range. StGs provided a much more respectable window for decent dps vs retreating units. Meanwhile, stormtroopers get plenty of penalties while on tactical assault - Larger RA and slower movement.

Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2019, 01:56 AMJae For Jett

Oh yeah, I remember that post. The graphs are wrong.

Jump back to quoted post25 Dec 2019, 19:47 PMSander93

It's not a weird mechanic, not dumb either. Shocks only have one real role, and it is to out-brute strength other infantry. The counter to Shock Troops is anything that kills infantry that isn't infantry. The few exceptions are overwhelming firepower, a good PGrens bundlegrenade, vetted IR STG44 Obers or Fallschirmjaeger (with a Blendkörper to be safe). Trying to pick a fight even with a somewhat wounded squad of Shock Troops with anything else is simply asking for trouble.

Jump back to quoted post25 Dec 2019, 19:06 PMSander93

That isn't really true, vet 3 Riflemen have 0.64 RA and vet 3 Infantry Sections (in cover) have 0.62 RA. Assault Engineers at 0.64. Sappers at 0.59. Guards at 0.64. Pathfinders and Paratroopers at 0.71.

With the accuracy overkill starting around 0.6 and up, there are plenty of targets Storms can shred that they won't have overkill (from both the vet bonus and the Tactical Assault bonus) against or at least nothing beyond a mere 5-10%.

And that's even without regarding the moving accuracy penalty. If we include that, assuming I'm doing all these calculations correctly, only 0.8 or larger targets provide overkill accuracy. Very few squads in the late game (bar newly built ones) have such a high target size.


What's also disregarded here is that both bonuses help against any target when said target is retreating (additional 0.4 received accuracy multiplier), as one of the major roles of Stormtroopers is hiding/operating behind enemy lines and picking off retreating squads.