Fair based on what exactly?
Because based on rate of fire of all TDs, its very unfair.
Based on RoF vet of all TDs, its very unfair.
Based on armor of all TDs, its very unfair.
Cheaper units vet faster then expensive one.
That being said, I have watched many top games, including mid level games of my own and I have seen multiple vet3 panthers, where allied TDs were just zoned by ATGs and killed by fast flanks.
That something that smells wrong for you, its you. 
no it smells off.
go see the stats guide.
all allies T3 and T4 tanks got gun buffs at vet2, and further buffs at vet3.
while P4 and P5 got their benefits at vet3. The armor is rather pointless at vet2 and should be move to vet1.
Due to axis costs of arrival especially P5 xp amounts.
I suggest move 50% gun bonus from vet3 to vet2. the other 50% at vet3. |
Its just confuse me, how 5men Gren upgrade that lock out LMG42 can win over 5men Tommy double Bren? Is veteran squad that good?
maybe not 5men double brens vetted tommy
but for other 5-6 men allies infantry spam, VSL gives Ost player a fighting chance to blob-v-blob |
imo
you're out of your mind
nope, it is only fair.
i watched many top games, including low level plays from my games
panthers hardly survive till vet3, whereas allies TD reach vet3 much earlier and last longer.
something smells wrong.  |
The armor replaces Blitz then, right?
nope, blitz stays. |
I main Soviet since 2013, started to play USF since 2017. And in early 2020, I changed to Axis, shift between Ost & Okw.
Recently I have a huge problems vs Allies infantry as Axis, especially Ost vs USF or UK.
- I feel like 4men Gren is completly dominated since early game vs 4men Tommy. To late game 4men 1LMG vs 5men 2Bren.
- Or 3 Ranger with 9 Zook and double Calliop behind (Last night had a match that 2 USF use 6 Ranger 18 Zook with 4 Calliop) I just feel hopeless.
Any tips? (Consider I play 4v4)
in 4v4, you have no choice but to use veteran squad leader doctrine and upgrade to 5men gren  |
Thing can't shoot for shit on the move. This is seriously needed, at the very least as a veterancy buff.
imo,
move armor skirts down to vet1. it is pointless at vet2 timings.
have all rof bonus at vet2, instead of vet2 & 3
vet3 have moving acc bonus. |
It's fine, it doesn't need to perform excellently in every catagory. It's already got excellent armor, health, range, mobility, survivability, and veterancy. There are only so many things that shall be stacked in it's favor.
not sure if it is a bug or overlooked, but the above video reminds me of using panther in game.
it takes too long to shoot, so that allies tanks are mostly retreated or fire off twice before panther return fire.
besides the vet3 rof bonus takes too long to attain for panther vis a vis allies TD. |
https://youtu.be/ZxAU64JgTD0?t=1981
I always felt panther unreliable is not just moving accruacy but its time to fire (reload, aim, turret etc).
Do you think so?
As above video has a good demo |
I can't wait to see your reaction when you'll see axis vet bonuses then.
You will probably straight start advocating for removal of 3rd star and all its bonuses all together.
i play axis, and their vet bonus are forgettable today compared to allies.
hence my suggestion. |
One of the problems with the KV-1 (as many other units) is that it get the complete wrong vet bonuses:
Vet1
Unlocks the "Hull Down" ability.
Vet 2
+35% weapon rotation speed.
+30% reload speed.
Vet 3
+20% reload speed.
+20% rotation speed.
+20% maximum speed.
It durability should simply be move to its veterancy since vet bonuses should help the unit in its role.
a lot of allies units need to have their vet bonus tone down. |
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