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Imo one should start with delaying Super heavies, delaying T4 for Ostheer and nerf allied performance especially at max ranges.

Basically this. I seen the games, it is all about going to heavies call now. Afterwards, you supplement with FF/SU85/JS. There is little else to build a medium especially Allies. Unless you are leading and feeling risky to go with a shock one.

In fact this build order extends to 4v4 team games. No reason to build T3 tanks. Since your infantry and AT guns are enough. I mean for Wehr, would you risk fuel to make P4, which does not a great job against infantry and AT? When you know it is pointless once 60TD hits.

Hence the armor vet is pointless imo. Takes up space, and helps little. The synergy is not working with this meta.

Btw i didnt know armor helps against snare. I thought and experience snaring as long the tank health is down some percentage.

Brum armor nerf and dozer hp buff makes no sense to me.

At worse, the vet should be swapped. Since allies have 60TD that invalidate any armor vet.
In the end, allies get the best of both world. Dozer armor can deflect p4 and stug and still get extra hit.

Befuddled me why the balance team has this strange reasoning.

Armor was wehr strong point. It supposed to act as a risk vs reward, to dive in and count on armor vet to have a chance to deflect. Which is invalidated nowadays.

Brums was given as a stock choice is to aid wehr weaker infantry against late game blobs. Its armor vet is supposed to reward it, it has slow slow tracking and gun traverse. All work well with original armor values. Armor as we know, just means a chance to bounce.

Meaning all wehr armor vet bonus is wasted. May as well change the bonus to +hp..

The dozer super turrret more than makes up for its speed too.

I disagree, the 4 man route is most relevant now. The wehr today is different from old time it was designed to play soviet. My theory is, Wehr as most picked faction. They are template behind features of coh. The positioning, the teching, the arty, the armor etc. The good intro to mechanics difference in this RTS.

But since they are most played, you want them to be least powerful. If not, it will turn off players picking other faction. They get all the tools, but probably the most counterable of all.

Back to brumbar, i believe the story all started and ended during the 2v2 championship. Weeks before, we got a big patch and inside, changes to AOE profile of Brumbar. Players before seldom picked it. After the patch, people found it useful.

Sadly i think Allies players never tried adapting counter to it, been a long time since they have to deal with a deadly infantry killer in Wehr army.

As earlier said, Wehr needs to be the weakest faction to be 'fair'. So during the championship, Brumbar got a quick nerf hit until today. A sad case imo.

We see less use of Brumbar outside friendly random 1v1 sparring. It is simply no longer cost efficient to use it.

Kv8 come at time where at least wehr have poor response to it.

Brumbar is too late.

Hence the problem.

Please share your findings and thoughts on state of balance


Tbf i only had time to watch tightrope replays and some AE casts.

My feels is Usf is dominating Wehr. Too much straight to call ins. Makes P4 play irrelevant now.
A lot of Tiger usage. I guess making the gun more consistent helps to give it dual role, AT meat shield and good AI.

No place for expensive inefficient panther so far. No need for Brums too. Allies still fielding their OP 60TD, so that's says alot

I can see why vipper singled out the call in changes. Right now no more t3/t4 plays. Hit wehr the hardest imo