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Thread: Tiger PzKpfw VI7 Feb 2019, 22:31 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2019, 22:08 PMLago No, my point is don't to use the Tiger as a dedicated tank destroyer. The Tiger's good in a tank battle, but if that's all you want it for, get a Panther instead. The whole thread is about that this is NOT the case. The Tank battle u may think of is sherman against Tiger. The regular is that Jacksons and SU 85 stomp the Axis Tanks while they cant fight back. The only Tank that trade ok is the Panther. And thats the reason why u see so much Panther`s in the current Meta. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tiger PzKpfw VI7 Feb 2019, 21:08 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2019, 20:11 PMLago The Tiger's a generalist: its penetration values are a hair below dedicated tank destroyers, and its Vet 0 main gun AoE is comparable to the HE rounds Sherman. Yes, the Panther outclasses it as a tank killer, but if you want an efficient tank killer, get a Panther! You get the Tiger instead of the Panther for the same reason you get the P4 instead of the StuG: you want a unit that can fight off enemy armour while still inflicting manpower bleed. If you keep the Tiger in your base and only roll it out for tank battles, it's not going to pay itself back. You need it on the front lines taking pot shots at infantry. Think of it like a slower, tougher Pershing. so your point is to use the most famous AT gun in ww2 to snipe 1 or 2 models at a Tank battle ? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tiger PzKpfw VI7 Feb 2019, 17:11 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2019, 14:12 PMSupremeStefan Jackson is the best medium TD so? Mg42 is the best mg. Hmm maybe asymetrical balance ? Im ok with that i dont have rocket arty or premium medium tank or even nondoc heavy tank but my medium tank destroyer is the best in game. Whats wrong with that ? For me its fair enough. That the hardcounter to ALL axis tanks, hit the field before u even get in the range of so "super mighty axis heavy Tanks" Its fair that u only have to build 2 Jacksons to rekt axis armor completly with 0 risk and effort? Axis only players should realize without Jacksons USF has nothing to counter heavy armor. I wish the "up gun" feature for Sherman was non-doctrinal to avoid this problem. Mines, At gun play, lots of very usefull doctrines, At inf... nothing right? the prblem is that it requires skill to do all this .. and why should u do this when u can have a 0brain Problem solver? At relaese the Jackson was nearly balancend. Its was a pure glascannon and now its take how many hits 5-6? The Jackson has no downsight for USf... its a No Brainer like the STG upgrade for Volks. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tiger PzKpfw VI7 Feb 2019, 13:04 PM Jump back to quoted post7 Feb 2019, 12:52 PMBananenheld That works quite well. I rarely see jacksons flanking. Their range and pen are enough to poke from distance and if needed can kite most tanks And there we have the reason for the TD Meta in 2018/2019 They dont have to flank (and risk) anything. Just sit there and wait for the Axis tanks to get in range. While Axis HAVE TO flank to even get in Range or to have any chance against a SU 85 wall. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Riflemen are too expensive.6 Feb 2019, 21:29 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Feb 2019, 21:20 PMVipper I can agree with most proposed changes (and have proposed similar changes myself) but I would also remove the St44 upgrade, redesign it or replace it with MP40 upgrade. aha and why ? more nerfs for okw? so u want to fight IS,penals and Rifles with mp 40 Volks in the mid-late game. Than pls remove them completly and make something new. Something like 6Man double LMG In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tiger PzKpfw VI6 Feb 2019, 19:44 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Feb 2019, 19:34 PMEsxile So one faction should be completely reliant on munition to have a chance late game? Doesn't make sens. No more munition then surrender? Like OKW with fuel ? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tiger PzKpfw VI6 Feb 2019, 19:27 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Feb 2019, 15:05 PMWingZero Jackson got a damage/range nerf long ago and does not have heavy armor like Tiger, Ele or Jagd. SU-85 is a hard counter to Axis heavy armor that can be easily flanked. Allied TDs are not a problem when the units are doing their job as intended. I voted for Tiger buff but we cannot make this unit into Yolo charge into 2 TDs and or multiple AT guns and come out on top. rly the meme Tanks Ele Jagd... maybe thats a problem in 3vs3+ easily flanked ???? How ? drive across the mainline and just rush it? through AT walls and AT inf? Thats not coh1. so like KV-8? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tiger PzKpfw VI6 Feb 2019, 13:58 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Feb 2019, 13:04 PMSupremeStefan lol u mean the only thing that usf can do in lategame . Without commander no wolverine no heavy tanks no premium mediums no rocket arty no heavy antinfantry tanks but yes some people say scott is op maybe its true but not really good for camping players and thats the reason why scot sux for me. Anyway its stupid that iam forced evrytime to bulid 2 jacksons i dont like it either but this is the only way to survive. So in my opinion we must nerf jackson and then u can use whatever u want even 222 spam. then dont build them and play maybe AT guns or 6Man with double zooks ... just combiend arms and not inf spam back up by jacksons. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tiger PzKpfw VI6 Feb 2019, 12:05 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Feb 2019, 21:43 PMWingZero Yea off course they have high penetration because they lack either speed, reload, armor or no turret. Whuut? so the Jackson lack speed, reload or armor ? NO! he has all this and 60 Range. And the "no turret" SU85 have selfspot and requires 0 micro, especially when u have more than one and a Zis...and any form of AT Inf. right now the Tiger is nothing more than a big heavy target. He need more Range and a little dmg buff. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tiger PzKpfw VI5 Feb 2019, 17:09 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Feb 2019, 16:40 PMWingZero I dont understand why TD meta is a problem for Tiger as they are hardcounter for heavy tanks? u play only against AI or ? In: COH2 Balance