Profile of GI John 412

More talking about the INGAME KT and where it should fit balance wise and less about K/D ratios of actual KTs from the war

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Arguments about “realism” are only good if they serve the purpose of improving the game. There is a massive difference between making the game actually realistic and making the game sound realistic, look realistic and “feel” realistic. In this regard we strive to get the feeling there by discarding absolute authenticity in order to present a playable experience that feels authentic, and most importantly is fun.

Non transferable weapon make thing even more complicated since the performance relies on RNG and weather the entity with weapon will be target first or not.

That is a bit less of problem with USF officers due to limit and the ability to get extra weapons.

In my opinion, while it makes things less predictable it also makes things more interesting. As long as it is easily identifiable to both players it’s not really a problem.

Using the Lieutenant and Captain as an example, they both have one special model with a Thompson that deals significantly better damage than the rest of the models in the squad. Dropping this model first in a fight makes these special squads no better than a rifleman squad, but dropping this model last makes them much better in close quarters.

The thing that makes this work is how loud and distinct the Thompson firing sound is. When it’s the only automatic weapon on the squad it is really easy for both players to hear when it stops firing. The same would work if you had one StG44 in a squad of Grenadiers. As soon as that model dies both players would immediately notice if it’s the only StG in the fight and if it’s not the only StG in the fight then it’s not nearly as critical of a distinction. If you use a Lieutenant and a ranger squad together and you drop the Lieutenant’s model you might not notice it but it doesn’t matter since the reason you didn’t notice is the other four Thompsons on the Rangers still firing. Same goes for using Panzergrenadier and VSL Grenadiers if they had an StG44. Visually it would be even easier to see this if the VSL had a different model, such as the Obersoldaten skin, like I suggested before.


Of course you could make it transferable too, and that might be the better choice for consistency.

There is an issue with good transferable weapons in large squad and that DPS lose. Squads like ST44 VGs and PPsh conscripts lose disproportional little DPS when losing models and that makes over-perform.
I suspect that a 4k98+1St44 would have the same effect making the squad too good vs mid/QCQ units. I can probably make a MOD for you to test it if you are interested.

Would the weapon need to be transferable though? Could it be made to be like the Lieutenant and Captain Thompson and be locked to only one model? I’m not sure about that at all actually. Can it even be done and if so, should it even be done? If it requires a different model for this to work then I suggest the Obersoldaten model and give him a Panzergrenadier StG44 that is not transferable. The Obersoldaten camouflage uniform is different enough from the regular Grenadier uniform that it would help both sides know when the VSL is alive with his more powerful weapon and when he is not. Plus the Obersoldaten model actually has StG44 magazine pouches. Lol

Regardless, it would still be less powerful at mid to close range than a Panzergrenadier squad with the same number of models until you reach only one model and then it should be the same. The other option would be to use the Volksgrenadier StG44 profile that is less powerful up close (and actually slightly better at long range too.)

The Easy Eight is fine. It’s got good armor, good penetration, good health and a good top MG. It’s a jack of all trades unit that’s better than most too.

It scales really well when used in groups too. It’s not as good at AT compared to a Jackson, and not as good at AI as a 75mm Sherman on HE rounds, but two Easy Eights are better than one Sherman and one Jackson at both AI and AT when used together.

He suggested moving it to sturms which would be an absolutely reasonable change.
But all the other factions need to do SOMETHING to clear their garrisons. Okw it's an easy out on your durable mainline infantry. No extras required. As far as not working to clear a garrison goes okw takes the cake without a close competitor.
The other factions need a special unit or a timely side tech or undesirable unit or an expensive unit. Sometimes multiple of those. Okw has their cover/garrison clearer on their cheap potent and plentiful mainline infantry, and have it gifted to them. They don't even have to work to GET it let alone have a unit on hand to make use of it...

Yeah, I’d like to see Volksgrenadiers change their non doctrinal grenade to a regular Model 24 stick grenade, but then give Sturmpioneers the incendiary grenade at Vet 0 and no longer have the stun grenade.

Then you make the incendiary grenade a doctrinal weapon for Volksgrenadiers that replaces the regular model 24 grenade. Replace infiltration grenades with the incendiary grenade in those doctrines that have infiltration grenades and also give it to Firesturm doctrine for Volksgrenadiers, because fire. Buff incendiary grenade damage on impact too now that it’s only on Sturmpioneers or doctrinal.

Now you’ve removed overly cheap and cheesy infiltration grenades, normalized regular Volksgrenadiers but also still have a reliable garrison counter on your starting unit.