Profile of gbem

Avatar Area

Offline Unknown SteamID unknown
Posts: 1979

General Information


Thread: soo when can they fix the maxim deathloop?1 Sep 2018, 04:44 AM Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2018, 03:41 AMJae For Jett They can't. well thats sucks... then at least buff the suppression and cost to make it more viable... err cant they program the models to teleport though and change the animations to prevent the guy from doing the pickup animation? or at least make the guy on the maxim unkillable until everyone else is dead? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: soo when can they fix the maxim deathloop?1 Sep 2018, 03:06 AM As you may be aware the maxim is the worst MG ingame simply due to its cost inefficiency and lack of suppression... to compensate the maxim has a quick setup time and is the most survivable MG in terms of squad durability... but even this is hampered however by an age old bug.... the maxim deathloop... which has never been addressed since the beginning of the game and i think fixing this would be a good step in the right direction... also since currently T2 builds arent as competitive as T1 builds a slight buff to suppression wouldnt hurt aswell... it should compensate for the lack of upgrades for the conscript in non doctrinal situations In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-7612 Jul 2018, 14:37 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jul 2018, 14:31 PMFelixTHM It's a horrible version of the SU85 because it costs 280/75 and comes in T3. SU85 comes in t4 and is 350/130. which would render it obsolete... besides its already soo bad at its medium tank destroyer role due to its horrible accuracy that mines + cons at nade + at guns are far more capable of destroying that first panzer 4 over an SU-76 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-7612 Jul 2018, 14:30 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jul 2018, 14:26 PMVipper Puma and SU-76 are unit with completely different roles. Puma has low accuracy and very penetration and needs to close or flank is to be effective vs medium and above. Su-76 can snipe just fine at long range especially once it hit vet 2 which is easy to do due to low XP value. 1. they used to be able to do the same roles... which was light AT... now the puma is simply better at that... 2. similar accuracy + judging by those numbers a slightly better accuracy curve... sure its pen is bad but its a really good cavalry tank 3. which would essentially make it a horrible version of an SU-85... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-7612 Jul 2018, 14:03 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jul 2018, 13:54 PMFelixTHM At your level of play tanks just sit there shooting each other until one side is destroyed. At a reasonable level of competency, tank destroyers kite and poke, whereas fast tanks will go for a flanking dive/rush, which makes comparing your skill level with the actual gameplay as accurate as comparing RPS to Chess. a bit of a problem with that though when using the SU-76... for starters it lacks accuracy and even when its shots do hit it only does 120 damage... the old SU-76 at least compensated for its bad accuracy with high rate of fire and thus i employed it much like cavalry... a shock tank i would rush into the flanks of a big tank while the SU-85 snipes it/keeps it distracted/abuses its low target size to kite shots... and get out using its speed... it was essentially much like the puma... in its old role... the patch however reduced its DPM and anti infantry potential respectively... which means it no longer fits its old role as cavalry... in fact it no longer fits any role efficiently... the puma is better at its supposed role as anti light vehicle/cavalry... and even kills infantry better when not using the barrage... in fact its soo bad at killing light vehicles now that when opponent brings out an SU-76 i simply just rush it and kill it... its simply that bad... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-7612 Jul 2018, 13:41 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jul 2018, 13:40 PMFelixTHM And we'd move it to t4 and cost it at 400mp 135 fuel. that was sarcasm.... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-7612 Jul 2018, 13:38 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jul 2018, 13:36 PMHighfiveeeee You don't even need a Luchs for that. The 222 can do that as well Nevertheless the old saying also applies here: "Never leave your tank unprotected". Especially if its a tank that cannot do shit against inf. well if light AT is its role then it certainly underperforms against the puma... as id gladly 1v1 a stuart or a T-70 with a puma... but never a luchs or a 222 with a SU-76... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-7612 Jul 2018, 13:35 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jul 2018, 13:27 PMSerrith As a Soviet main I feel the Su76 is alright in terms of cost efficiency. Regarding its accuracy, iirc the panzer 4 has a target size of 40 multiplied by the long range accuracy of the su76 of 0.025 and you have a 100% hit rate assuming those numbers are correct. In addition, the su76 scales far better than the puma due to its higher penetration at all ranges and ability to tank 3 at shots instead of 2. Don't get me wrong I consider both vehicles very cost effective . you just can't dismiss the su76 because it's penetration is lower than the main line tank destroyers. Both the puma and su76 fill the niche they are in just fine as stop tap light anti tank with the puma being a stronger counter to light vehicles and the su76 scaling better due to its effectiveness against medium tanks and longer range. The barrage is just extra And to be honest, I wouldn't be that bothered if they removed it entirely even without compensating buffs for starters the panzer 4 has a target size exactly the same to that of the SU-76... which is 22... and an accuracy of .025... or 55% accuracy... coupled with subpar damage per shot and that SU-76 is going to have trouble even killing a panzer 4 now... and if the puma/SU-76 are supposed to be stopgap AT vs light vehicles... then the puma is far superior in that sense to the SU-76 as the tests ive conducted suggest... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-7612 Jul 2018, 13:31 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jul 2018, 13:27 PMHighfiveeeee I get your point, I did not know that the accuracy became worse after the patch (haven't played Sovs for a while now), but imo the pen and accuracy was extremely good before as well. The thing is that it has to be bad in some way. It perfectly counters Light Vehicles like 222s. 251s, Flak HTs and Luchses by killing them or at least forcing them to move out of an area. The barrage then is just a nice bonus. It being free was a problem in the first place. If you want to get a sniper tank hunter, you get the SU85 (which also has its flaws, but still). well the pre patch SU-76 at least had fire density... a really high rate of fire.. to make up for its awful accuracy... sure it missed alot of rounds but it could fire them fast enough that missing doesnt really hurt the tank destroyer... as per light AT... yes it counters 222s/luchs provided it has at least 1 conscript supporting it... and rushes to medium-close range so that it actually manages a hit... without 1 conscript supporting it... it is theoretically possible for a luchs to kill an SU-76 thanks to a combination of its lack of accuracy slightly slower speed and lack of a turret... and yes in terms of AT performance the SU-85 is far superior... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-7612 Jul 2018, 13:19 PM Jump back to quoted post12 Jul 2018, 13:08 PMullumulu 1. See? the su will win any engagements at this range and can even outrange the expansiver stug3. so it can fire from save place without needing high healt pool or armor. and its pene vaulue is high enough to deal with medium armor well. even on max range. 2. and the abilty from puma is costfree? 1. and all the stug/puma player has to do is move forward and the SU-76 is going to lose... this is especially true for the puma since its FASTER and has a turret... regardless the puma is still superior in the AT role as the experiment suggests... you cannot refute this now 2. 35 muni to disloge an MG or a mortar with a really bad AT platform... or 30 muni for smoke which can save the puma... or disable an enemy tank... tldr axis puma > SU-76 as light AT... In: COH2 Balance