Volks get RA bonuses at Vet1 on top of being very strong at Vet0
That's factually wrong, stats are still up to date since vet 0 stats didn't change...and volks aren't any better than anything but cons...debeatable post patch...
JP4 did get an accuracy buff at Vet2 to help it perform its main role as a medium tank/TD killer.
That's something, as you answered to shadowlink, it looked like the scope didn't allow balance team to buff it.
So it's intended that jadgpanzer 4 fills a role as medium counter, despite being more expensive than any unturretted and slower ?
135 fuel for a slower stug with 60 range ? Not the best investment ever i would say.
Shadowlink pointed out the flaw comparing it to 85..it's either too expensive to be a medium only TD or has a way too low pen and should be redesigned to deal with heavies only/too.
JP4 also gains extra accuracy and pen with that round, and it's still damn beefy at Vet2.
What ? Vet 5 penetration buff comes terribly late and only applies to first shot, while the gthing bounces to anything more armored than a medium/easy8
Su85 is faster, has vet 0 high penetration, low vet xp requirement, is cheaper, comes in a tier that comes faster...the only supposed advantage is an armor that may or may not bounce generalists shot now.
Where's the balance in that ?
Ps: OF COURSE...the SCOPE...if jadgpanzer 4 nerfs aren't compensated is because scope.
I'm sure that if after all the approved changes to jadgpanzer 4, if after all this "balance" and "normalization" of vet and such, if changelog listed:
-jadgpanzer4 penetration increased in line with other tier 4 TD's
-jadgpanzer4 rotation rate from 20 to 22 in line with other unturretted TD's
Relic would have SURELY got MAD
That's ridicolous...what was the scope for DBP ? Why jadgpanzer 4 nerfs are in scope and buffs aren't ?
Always the same meme of bad relic and bad scope...
I think you should align your expectations with what is possible to achieve. Of course Relic isn't going to allow any modding team to completely rework the game. There is a need to a certain continuity with what is in place and how to balance it. And I don't really understand what you said about the M10, the unit is now tied to tier3, USF doesn't have anymore an emergency tank at disposal.
Yeah that's bs i'm sorry to say that..
The game is old so the balance team can't fix lackluster jp4 penetration/insane vet xp requirements. But has time/resource to
-completely rework infantry balance (including elites)
-completely rework doctrines...even adding new/singleplayer abilities
-buff doctrinal vehicles/units
-rework other doctrinal abilities outside said doctrines (ex htdirt)
-rework emplacements after MONTHS of balance addressed those before
-....
but couldn't simply copypaste an higher penetration value to the newly all around nerfed jadgpanzer 4 (which was only good because cloak and armor, and both have been nerfed, now it's just overall a worse su85 with lower mobility, pen...) ?
I don't buy it
Now zooks three shot luchs properly and there are tons of soft counters to luchs.
The luchs change was driven by the sentiment towards previous meta and nothing more.
Not that i care, now that flak ht and mg's are decent...but don't write on notes that the objective is to increase diversity if you are killing a tier like that, and don't add such change at the last moment like a snake just because you already know it's bs...it's pathetic.
only feels bad because you need to micro it like the pak howi
and same with less mortar pits being built now, a little bit of micro = too hard
If you ever played with it or at least read some comments you would know that's not true.
The goddam thing simply shoot rocks...may aswell replace the skin with an onager.
It's not up to micro to kill models 2 cm away from impact zone..
People are complaining that the balamce team decided to make it cheaper instead of fixing aoe...like it could make up for the total lack of damage.
Isg has NOWHERE the utility, the range, the anti building power and the aoe of pack howie, but i can't really help you to see that if the bias won't allow.
Recently a lot of newcomers joined the game after humble bundle promotion
In automatch those new players are still going through placement matches and know little about the game.
I just wanted to remind people that anyone was a "noob" at first and that is in our best interest to keep those players within the active community overtime.
Please avoid mockery and cancerous behaviour, be patient and explain them game mechanics/encourage them in learning the game.
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