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Man..you dont even understand what Im talking about
See that line? USF should have Jackson nerf to they may use Sherman as AT option.
I dont compare on Jackson & King.
I list out all the unit that Okw can use to fight Jackson, and list out all the unit that USF can use to fight Panther & King.
Im sure you're pro enough to understand only Jackson able to fight Panther & King. Stuart and Sherman can only fight Puma Pz4 Jadpz4
On the other hand, Puma Pz4 Jadpz4 Panther King. Tell me one unit that can not pen 130armor Jackson.
Put Wolverine non doc like Puma
Put Comet non doc like Panther
Put IS2 non doc like King
- And all you have is Panther.
Sounds OP isnt it? Thats USF vs Okw.
You still don't understand the stupidity of your "argument". Units have different resource costs and timings, and vacuum comparisons without considering the actual in-game context is deceptive and dishonest. USF has very little stock armour variety, but that doesn't change the fact that the Jackson is too good at the moment. In any case, you totally missed the fact that an armour nerf doesn't change the matchup of Jackson vs Panther.
The King Tiger has such atrocious turret rotation, acceleration, speed, and turn rate that medium tank rushes actually deal with it very well. The Jackson certainly isn't the only counter for it. And it's weird that most low-rank USF players don't realise they have the best AT gun in the game. By the time you're fighting Panthers and KT, surely you can afford a small handful of muni to give the AT gun which has the best RoF, tracking, and fire arc the highest penetration as well.
In any case, your "argument" is beyond retarded. You're using "can this unit be easily penned" as the basis of your "argument" for whether the Jackson can be countered. Virtually all good players agree that the Jackson has no weakness, and is especially painful for Ostheer to deal with. Other TDs, meanwhile, all have weaknesses. Stugs have 50 range and no turret, SU76s have no turret and are horribly fragile, the Firefly's cost and RoF are criminal, SU85 and JP4 are poor-mobility casemates which can get circle strafed by anyone - even slow tanks like the Churchill or KV1 can circle-strafe a jp4. The Jackson, meanwhile is A 60 range high pen unit with high moving acc, turret rotation, and the mobility of a P4. The Jackson isn't relying on its armour to deflect King Tiger shells. It relies on the player not being a retard who engages the King Tiger in a close-range brawl.
The Jackson's insane mobility makes it too good at escaping from anything that tries to kill it, AND makes it too good at chasing after high value targets compared to every other TD. I would have thought even low-elo players could understand this simple concept.
The only unit that actually counters Jacksons is the Jp4, but even then it only forces it back. Diving with a Panther is horribly risky since the Panther costs way more than the Jackson, and it's only really possible when all his riflemen are out of position. Pumas can only dive when the Jackson is heavily damaged, and P4s literally have no chance against a decent player.
Imo Jackson needs an armour AND a mobility nerf, but should probably get a price reduction to compensate.