Profile of blvckdream

300 MP is cheap for a 6 man unit which performs better than any regular infantry and even better than most doctrinal units and killing infantry with satchel is actually possible even if the enemy isn't totally AFK.F.e. MGs in buildings

That's why it is the meta at 700+ players in 1 vs 1 ...

Dude...everytime I see my opponent going T1 penal strats I am happy. PPSH cons + T2 is way harder to deal with, especially for OKW.

Soviet T1 is terrible vs OKW right now, I have completly destroyed players who went Soviet T1 with OKW despite being way lower ranked than them. OKW Flak HT into Obersoldaten completly reks them because they need to upgrade PTRS on their Penals to even stay in the game and even then they can´t deal with the Flak HT because it just supresses them before they do significant damage. The only thing you need to watch out for is a M3 with Guards/PTRS penals in it. So always keep Volks and/or Rak next to your Flak HT.

It costs Soviets 85 fuel to just unlock T3 so you have plenty of time before SU76 or T70 arrives. And then you have Volks faust + Rak to deal with it.

What exactly is it that makes it hard for you to play against Penals? And are you mainly playing OKW or Ost.

IMO garbage doctrine. WC51 is meh...Mortar HT nerfed and situational at best, 76 Sherman is meh. Bulldozer update is maybe OK for some situations but I dont like trading mobility for a bit of HP. Don´t think it´s worth it.

The solution would be to make it so they have a defined role past just being a jack of all trades master of none. Or make them much more powerful but at a greater cost.

Stormtroopers have the same problem as PGrens. In fact a lot of the problems in this game have stemmed from ill defined elite infantry, and balance being tied to poor design. Extensive reworks are probably necessary. I consider penal batallions as a product of an extensive rework, where they now have well defined roles, although Strafniki are meant to die not be elite

True for 1v1. 2v2+ not so much. Stormtroopers are actually very goot with STG upgrade, their tactical assault ability (or whatever the name is) makes them insanely good at flanking units. They get tons of wipes against retreating units or teamweapons. They are just right and definitly don´t need buffs. In a way they are like Paratroopers, underused because people don´t really know how to use them right or are just too lazy and prefer blobbing.

Regarding Pgrens...They are a solid unit. Not really that good in 1v1 but 2v2+ they are just right. If they get buffed we´d just see huge Pgren blobs running around. Again great flanking unit. Not a unit that you can just a-move around effectivly. They are effective vs PPSH cons and counter them well. They are also good vs UKF because infantry sections are just helpless if they get into CQC combat. Sure they aren´t really that good on open maps like Crossing in the Woods where it´s hard to flank/surprise people but on maps like Arnhem, Semoisky, Poltawa, Winnekendonk they are actually very effective and hard to deal with.

Pgrens can´t be truly elite infantry like Obers because they come way too early for that. Maybe make them a 250MP/25 fuel side-tech in T2 and make them a 400 MP AI unit with Obersoldaten like performance but more specialized on CQC and mid-range combat.

Aside from these 2 not having anything to do with with spring balance thread, I wish my opponets were dumb enough to charge at my entrenched grens through full open cover. I'd have a 100% winrate.

Sure. But he claimed that Grens are so bad that you can just charge them with Riflemen and win easily. And I tried to show him that it´s not really true. Unfortunately he is not interested in it for whatever reason.

He also claimed that Cons without PPSH can do the same and win. I thought it might be a good idea to show him that he is wrong.

Unfortunately he will just deny everything that doesn´t fit into his narrative.

And how is the original poster an top 10 player? He doesn't have a playercard. Get your head checked. Pumas are not cost effective vs mediums if you don't have numerical superiority.

But you always have numerical superiority because u save a ton of fuel in tech cost? So whats the point again?