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Thread: New Commander Info: Creator Proposals and Discussion13 Mar 2019, 18:54 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2019, 16:32 PMSmartie I also thought about making Panzer II available. The unit would fit to the theme and would give this Wehrmacht commander a unique unit. The question is if the Luchs would have a real role: 222 does the same job but is 30 fuel cheaper. Why build a Luchs that comes a lot later? But the idea itself is interesting, feedback of players would be really appreciated here. Would they prefer a Luchs or a better PZ IV? If you're throwing down 60 FU as OST, would you rather: Luchs? 444? 222 + Flamer HT? An OST Luchs would probably need some sort of trick to be worth it. Like a Command Luchs with Mark Target, Panzer Tactician and Recon Mode or something. As for the OKW P4, that could get visually confusing at Vet 2 when it becomes identical to its OST counterpart. What if it was an upgrade for the existing tanks? Elite Armour Upgrade Costs 45 FU, mutually exclusive with MG42 mount. Available for the Panzer IV, Panther and StuG. Adds the OKW Panzer Commander, granting the artillery call-in and bonus accuracy. Unlocks Vet 2 armour skirts immediately. Adds vehicle crew repair (same as OKW) to Vet 2 to replace the armour bonus. In: Lobby
Thread: Replace the Ostwind13 Mar 2019, 17:56 PM Wouldn't swapping the Ostwind and Wirbelwind just be a skin change? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW Unit Swaps 2: Remote Control Boogaloo13 Mar 2019, 17:55 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2019, 17:07 PMVipper In the case of USF it certainly is, a faction design to have powerful units to compensate for the limited access to support weapon now have full access to support weapons. If in you opinion it not then OKW deserve the same treatment of having their tech limitation removed. So... uh... what does this have to do with Goliaths again? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW Unit Swaps 2: Remote Control Boogaloo13 Mar 2019, 15:38 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2019, 15:28 PMVipper You will have to argue that with the people who are involved in the patch since it has been done repeatedly since June 2016. The only point I make is since the newest changes in USF and (UKF at some extent) indicate that we are going down that road, it would be far more efficient if all the homogenization was done simultaneously instead of progressively. UKF got snares, USF had its sidetech barriers lowered because they were unduly punishing. That's hardly linearising. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Wermacht Machine Gun spam vs USF13 Mar 2019, 15:19 PM Pretty mode dependent. USF is good at flanking, but that's hard on the narrow, unit saturated 2v2 and 4v4 maps. Your best bet is light vehicles. If you've got the Mechanized commander, Cavalry Riflemen in a WC51 are a brutal counter to units with no AT abilities. The M20 is a nondoctrinal unit that can fill a similar role, but it's not as strong. Be sure to grab a Stuart too. It's not as good against infantry as an M20 or WC51, but it can do a bit and it'll fight off any 222s that go for your lighter vehicles. In: Strategy Desk
Thread: OKW Unit Swaps 2: Remote Control Boogaloo13 Mar 2019, 15:07 PM Linearising all the factions sounds like a lot of effort for little reward. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Why does the Firefly have to suck so much? 13 Mar 2019, 13:21 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2019, 13:13 PMVipper Comparing a stock ("free" as some would describe it) ability with a expensive doctrinal unit is simply flawed or you simply want to rant about a OKW unit. Don't you think this is a little hypocritical of you? You always complain about people making things personal whenever your own motives are questioned. The Command Panther is relevant: it's a very common unit, and sight advantage is only an advantage when it allows you to outspot the enemy. Does 45 sight vs 40 sight make that much of a difference when the enemy has 55? You're still outranged. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USF got too many buffs 13 Mar 2019, 12:29 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2019, 12:11 PMVipper Flatting out the damage output was a good changes buffing the far DPS by 180% and lowering XP values was not. The units was great before the tech changes and yet it received major buffs like price reduction, XP value, DPS buff while calling it become less punishing since Bazooka access and ATG access become easier/cheaper. It really, really wasn't. It cost 340 MP for a start. It could stand to lose the crew bazooka now it can get LT Bazooka and Stuart support, but the M20 was pretty much unseen before the revamp. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USF got too many buffs 13 Mar 2019, 12:08 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Mar 2019, 10:50 AMVipper They are straight buffs and the change to close accuracy is hardly a nerf because it applies mostly to ranges close to 0-10 and the m20 hardly chooses to go point blank. It used to fight that close. It'd utterly butcher any snareless unit left exposed, but was disappointingly ineffective vs snares. Then OKW got snares and the M20 gave way to the Stuart. Then the Stuart got nerfed and the Stuart gave way to a AAHT. Flattening out its damage was a good call imo. It turns it into a solid damage dealer all round rather than plinking away at snare troops and mercilessly slaughtering engineers, MGs and PGrens. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW Unit Swaps 2: Remote Control Boogaloo13 Mar 2019, 12:00 PM iii'm back I made a thread suggesting an OKW tech reshuffle in the same vein as the USF one: vehicular suppression and team weapon indirect in one, and vice versa in the other. Stuka to T3, Mortar Halftrack in T2, et cetera. However, J4J pointed out that it was essentially just a buff to Mechanized. He then explained in detail how the OKW faction dynamic works: Mechanized pumps out a load of light vehicles to minimise bleed, allowing it to afford late game units and gain a manpower advantage. So I got to thinking, how could you rework Battlegroup to be distinct from Ostheer and from Mechanized, but competitive with both? And I had... ...no ideas. Stick LMG-less Obersoldaten in it, you're making a build that's already too manpower bleedly relative to Mechanized even bleedier. OKW's doctrinal units are all either medium armor or infantry, so you couldn't nab any of them. Grab some Ostheer units like the 250 and MHT? Maybe, but you just end up just giving OKW more stuff. Then I had a crazy idea. I'm still half convinced it's really dumb, but I want to see what ~~J4J~~ everyone thinks. Replace Early Warning Systems in Overwatch Doctrine with the IRHT. Good thematic fit, less insanely powerful than the auto-flares. Replace the IRHT in Battlegroup Headquarters with the Goliath. Goliaths are really loud, much harder to pull off without the Early Warning flares to spot for you, and if you build more than two you're going to be very short on munitions in a munitions hungry faction. They're also only in Battlegroup this way, which means no Luchs, Stuka or Puma, just a munitions hungry Flak HT. But they also don't bleed manpower, they inflict serious manpower bleed on the enemy, and are unlike anything any other faction has. More useful than the IRHT, right? Thoughts? In: COH2 Balance