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meta of shrek blob, calliope use, panzerwerfer use... can we discuss that too? since these are also abused, implemented, used, and require fixing. they can single-handedly change the tide of a game.

Am I the only one that is annoyed (despite the AEC), that every game right now is rushing the first unit to a near building because units in buildings (especially UKF Infantry Sections) are extremely durable and there is no reliable way to get them out as Axis?

Since vanilla times... it was always getting the mg42 there first and then soviet trying to displace them with mortars or clown cars with flamer

then OKW and USF came along and it was usually sturms get there first. Now, it's sturms vs. IS to see who gets there first.

In the end, i don't think much has changed. Fighting for key positions and territory.

As for Axis, OKW had a hard time displacing but that's why incen grenade and sturms at close range exist. For OST, they have snipers, mortars, flamers to remove units from buildings.

I think every mainline unit is pretty durable in a building

Anyways... back on topic.

can't be made different or precious balance of 1v1 pro mode is in danger MVGame

Allies is really strong with their Infantry. USF alone , Guards, Shocks, Commandoes, and then in a fight between vickers and mg42 the vickers wins it unless mg42 has rate of fire bulletins

so you have to hold against it and then get your first tank out as axis , and boom, calliope, katyusha for the inf and it goes downhill. and then to counter their tanks you have a tank, while allies infantry is still going after you, if done with teamwork and denying axis to have fuel you pretty much win it.

As another point i think that there are more viable soviet commanders than wehrmacht commanders, and commanders of USF just push you to another level.

Last but not least, Grenadiers just die like Flies to every indirect fire. Infantry Sections are only 4 men, but don't die to random mortar shots.

For Tank battles axis have to rely on panther or the heavy call ins, while soviets have then mark target (if not then wtf why you dont want to help your team) and brits artillery cover, while IS-2 and KT is mostly a fair fight and JT can be punished so easily by just getting snared, same goes for elefant. Pretty much another reason, because the only real good things axis have is JU-87, which gets just ripped down by centaur.

In general you could just make a list like this :

stuart can bang puma easily, while luchs can't bang a stuart (unless poorly microed) = more punishment

Vickers > MG42 in a house to house fight (unless rate of fire bulletins)

Grenadiers just have a real hard time with just 4 men that also get wiped really easy.

Allies Mines > Wehrmacht mines , OKW is pretty much a fair deal. But you have to decide between s mines or teller as wehrmacht.

Pack howi > Leig gun

If you don't get the better position, you will lose. And in that regard allies have the clearly advantage.. As Axis you have to coordinate way better, way more aggresive support weapon play and you can be punished much easier.

If you succeed, you might win, if you lose it, shit's coming down at you soon


So in general : Axis mistakes in early and mid get punished way harder than allied mistakes

WOW. just wow... i haven't see a strong axis fanboi in the post until this came along and compelled me to reply. KT and IS2 on equal footing? nooo, i don't think so. anyone else on this forum agree?
Mark target means you don't get a heavy... Axis has one on the command panther too!

Pack howi > leig gun? oh please... vet and range is way better. I'd trade you for an leig...
Both 4 men IS and gren squads get wiped easily... except one costs more and the cheaper one gets a snare as well

Vickers is better at killing things. mg42 is better at suppressing things. Please give me a suppression platform... i need it to control blobs. also mg42 is cheaper.

this guy/girl complains about katyusha... the most balanced rocket artillery in the game and then onto the calliope without mentioning the panzerwerfer.

If you deny fuel for either side, that's pretty much a huge advantage on either Axis or Allies side... what a poor argument

How are Allied mines better? You cannot pick and choose your enemy. teller mines will only target vehicles if that's what you want. and s-mines will deny an area or kill enemies on retreat if you place them well....

Why don't you go into 230 fuel croc versus a 230 fuel tiger... I want a tiger. 230 fuel is2 or 230 fuel tiger... i'd still probably go with tiger. 230 fuel pershing or 230 fuel tiger... debatable and situational but tiger has the HP advantage and blitz

you complain about allies infantry but not shrek blob in team games?... phail

please present an unbiased view please.

Who said anything about counter? It should be competent in a roughly similar way. Adjust the price to 290/25 if you wish, the 5 points of extra fuel makes its cost very similar, without the M20's ridiculously powerful mines or the free bazooka you get from the crew. The new 222 would of course still lose to light tanks like the AEC and Stuart 1v1, but would be able to inflict some damage to them as a micro-heavy deterrent.

I'd rather have my M20 shoot antivehicle rounds than have to wait 3 seconds to unmount, shoot a rocket, and then get sniped to death by your new 222 AI gun at range.
BTW, i think other posts were mentioning at least 35 fuel for all these crazy upgrades. there will be no fruition here.

anyways, i think lelic will disagree with you guys here. there will be no change to the 222 in terms of fighting power/damage/attack rate.

looking at your playercard i see that you are a 4v4 player. Theres one thing you need to know, in 4v4's you can get anything work, even m42 spam... But i am talking about 1v1 and 2v2 where things dont work like that, in 2v2's falls simply dont trade well enough to be worth it. But partisans in other hand can trade vet 0 squads for vet3 vet 5 squads or even vehicles, so they are a lot better. But partisans can be viable in very rare hands.

please play 4s with me then and show me that spamming anything works. i beg to disagree. some stuff just sucks. sure, partisans can be good with certain players but fallschims can also be good with certain players.

back to the point of the thread topic if you notice... partisans are generally not a problem in 3s and 4s. it's just dominating late game artillery and tanks that usually determine the winner in a 30-40 minute game.