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Jump back to quoted post10 Dec 2015, 08:45 AMDullahan

The way Dawn of War 2 handled it was by reducing the amount of resources each point gave by the game mode. In 1v1 a requisition point was +15 and matured to +30, in 3v3 it was +5 and matured to +10 in 3v3. Power income was similarly divided by the number of players. (Requisition was basically manpower, the reason you got way less in team games was because you didn't have to build as many power generators)

I'm baffled that this system isn't in the game, to be honest. Especially since they go out of their way to ensure that there's always 8/10 strat points, 2 muni and 2 fuel points on almost every map. Capping the map faster due to more players also increases early game income significantly.

Caches are also a less risky investment due to the larger map size. (Although I'd imagine that a player who made a point of hunting cache's would be a huge boon to their team.)

I always kind of considered the entire purpose of 3v3/4v4 to let people live out their fantasies of large tank battles though. 2v2 I don't really notice much of a difference outside of the natural benefits of larger maps.

Jump back to quoted post8 Dec 2015, 05:10 AMDullahan

I don't even know how people propose you balance for team games. They just say "You can't just balance for 1v1". Well, what do you mean there?

1v1 is essentially balancing faction match ups. What happens when economies and units mix and work together is not something you can control for at all. 1v1 has six match ups, 4v4 has 1296. Not to mention that the addition of more players means that the maps end up being much larger, which in turn has its own huge effect on gameplay.

The only way I could see team games working as their own balance thing is if they had their own unique economy. All unit costs and income would be adjusted separately from 1v1. This isn't something that is really viable to do, honestly.

Your best bet if you want balanced team games is to set out and make your own mod to accomplish that goal.

For what it's worth though, if Relic deleted this patch (except for the changes to doctrines) they'd massively improve both 1v1 and team game balance. It seemed team games were in a good spot before.