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Thread: Fallshirmjager vs Shock Troopes vs Paratroopers24 Sep 2019, 19:08 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2019, 19:04 PMKirrik Falls are weakest at vet0 and come earlier than Paras, thats not even counting their cheapness and ambush camo. Now comibine 2 plus 2 and figure out who's gonna win in real game well u can do some test and post them, i did mine and posted them, unlike u saying LIES as Always In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Fallshirmjager vs Shock Troopes vs Paratroopers24 Sep 2019, 19:02 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2019, 19:00 PMKirrik https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZtaBecIom0&t=1675s Is tightrope rigging tests then? Because even without any vet Falls can almost take out Paratrooper squad so they lost right ? are u saying that losing is now winning ? are u that biased ? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Fallshirmjager vs Shock Troopes vs Paratroopers24 Sep 2019, 18:39 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2019, 15:36 PMKirrik Because calling Glider is comparable to teching? Also this entire thread is retarded, Commandos with brens should shred Falls at any ranges as they come later and require much higher investment than Falls to reach same power levels and scale worse with vet and you can't spam 3-4 squads of them casually like people do with Falls. Anyway a squad that can win against dedicated long range units such as paras and guards and at the same time win against elite CQC units like rangers while having bundle, WP, stealth, ambush, faust and paradrop is the ultimate joke, one can argue that this time balance team went farther than JLI again with ur lies they lose vs dedicated units stop spouting lies as always , is this like the ostwind vs centaur where i did the test and u said i rigged them ? when u showed nothing ? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Fallshirmjager vs Shock Troopes vs Paratroopers24 Sep 2019, 18:36 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2019, 16:59 PMgbem Sidetech vs free stuff from teching... Why is it that axis somehow gets free shit from teching while the allies have to sidetech to get the goodstuff :v cause they pay more with tech ? we had this discussion some time ago u keep ignoring it https://www.coh2.org/topic/96750/redirect-thread-faction-teching-and-timing In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Fallshirmjager vs Shock Troopes vs Paratroopers24 Sep 2019, 18:30 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2019, 18:09 PMKirrik Commandos cost much more MU and MP than Falls so it's obvious it shouldnt even be a contest between those 2 squads, Commandos arent the issue here. The issue is that Falls beat LMG paratroopers at their prefered range which is retarded, same as shredding rangers which cost more and forced into close range to deal damage while having none of the utility of Falls. they don't are u so drained for arguments that u have to make up stuff ? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Fallshirmjager vs Shock Troopes vs Paratroopers24 Sep 2019, 18:27 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2019, 18:01 PMCODGUY The Glider needs to go away as a mechanic all together. Got what a damn waste of man power. u know a glider only cost 40 mp and is basically a reinforce bunker that cost 125 mp + 60 mun ? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Fallshirmjager vs Shock Troopes vs Paratroopers24 Sep 2019, 14:44 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2019, 14:24 PMmadin2 And how do you get commandos for 350 Mp? Right get a 540 mp Glider before And i also forget the weapon rack upgrade cost don't worry u also forgot okw has that cost in the tech In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Fallshirmjager vs Shock Troopes vs Paratroopers24 Sep 2019, 14:20 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2019, 14:14 PMthedarkarmadillo Are any of these tests taking into account the ambush bonus? Then FG42s are beasts, is a 1 on 1 where they can pick the terms (via camo) adding in that ambush bonus tips the scales handily does it not? Of course commandos also have ambush camo so in that instance I suppose it matters more who ambushes who Right? yep tho bren don't get the bonus for me is impossible to test both with ambush bonus as changing side will restart the clock timer In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Fallshirmjager vs Shock Troopes vs Paratroopers24 Sep 2019, 13:41 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2019, 13:09 PMmadin2 If you give commandos 2 Bren they win on long range only when both units vet 0, when falls reach vet 2 its 50:50, both on vet 3, falls win and commandos with bren lose always on short range. But Remember 390 Mp, 90 Mun, 35 Mp reinforce, 9 pop, small gammon bomb, smoke nade vs 320 MP, 60 Mun, 36Mp reinforce, 9 Pop, bundle nade, Faust, blend grenade They 5 man commando squad for 390 Mp without bren win always (with 3 Men casualties) on super short range. So falls are cheaper and the better all rounder unit nope they still win at vet 5 vs 3 i did my test https://imgur.com/a/it0USWy if u are asking how, it's simple, each mean lost for falls is - 1/4 of total dps while commando losing a model means nothing 0 as the dps is from bren so only when they are 1 mean they deal 1/2 of the dps commando are 350 mp btw the extra 40 is for the glider btw u just need to increase cost to 340 mp and munition to 80 In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Fallshirmjager vs Shock Troopes vs Paratroopers24 Sep 2019, 12:41 PM Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2019, 09:41 AMgbem Yes falls outclass commandos nope they lose at long and short range with 2 bren In: COH2 Balance