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Jump back to quoted post17 Apr 2016, 11:54 AMadamírcz

I somehow got used to that, but it is really annoying.
Comparison to regular nades used by USF, shocktroops and Tommies:
Rifle nade has more inconspicous animation, no timer and longer "throwing" range, (which makes using of the nade even more surprising). It's disadvantage is, that it cant be used on close range.
Then there are allied grenades: They can be used on close range. Disadvantage is that they cant be thrown on long range, very noticable throwing animation and timer+ usually need to be side teched for
Damage and cost are the same.
A way to deal with that riflenade is 1)getting good instincts 2)being very lucky 3)hearing your units shout "Grenaaaade!" and recognize whether or not are they shouting it beause enemy is throwing a grenade, or because they are the ones who's throwing a grenade 4)focusing on opponents unit so much, that you won't notice when some flanker comes in and rapes your unit from behind 5)Try to come on the closest possible range and lose most of your soldiers during the process
A.K.A things that your opponent mostly doesnt have to bother with and will still have the same or better success

Yes, you're bloody right, this IS a whinepost and I've got a good reason for it

Jump back to quoted post16 Apr 2016, 23:29 PMHax0rJimDuggan

You can't dodge them, by the time you hear grenade and move your units it still takes out 3/5th of the squad. And seriously they don't take shit for damage in green cover? I have replays proving otherwise.

Yes I was a top player and there were absolutely NO abilities like this on COH1. I've dealt with the nuclear pineapple plenty of times and have had no problems with it, but the rifle nade is like the nuclear pineapple with no timer on it, if it's so balanced, what ability does US have that can insta gib squads with no timer?

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2016, 18:54 PMAustralian Magic

Elephant and Jadtgiger are OP on certain maps.
Snipers are OP on ceratin maps.
HMG are OP on certain maps.

etc
etc

Should we nerf them? No becasue it's problem with the map, not unit.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2016, 18:30 PMMr.Smith

I am not sure if you are running a mod, but I literally just launched the game, and the cost for the Jagtiger is:
720MP, 280FU, 21popcap for me.

The values you listed are a bit closer to what the unit cost should have been.



While that's true, we also have to accept the fact that certain units scale way better the more crowded a game-mode becomes:
- Extreme-long range units (basically the TDs)
- All artillery units in general
- Aura units

Now, there's a choice that we need to make:
1. Do we balance everything with 1v1 in mind, and then completely forget about teamgames
2. Do we balance units according to the strongest gamemode they can be featured?
3. Do we introduce different rules for each gamemode?

Most likely, #3 is never going to happen. Therefore, we have to choose between #1 and #2. I'd say that #2 is the best option, since it is our best bet to avoid having broken gamemodes (e.g., Arty Cover/CalliOP fun times). An unfortunate side-effect is that some of the well-scaling units will probably not remain as viable for smaller game-modes.