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Thread: What do people think of Conscripts after the patch?2 Aug 2019, 15:53 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 15:40 PMgbem and then 360 manpower goes down the drain along with much of the soviet build since T1 doesnt have much to counter WM LVs as easily as soviet T2 can someone doesnt even know that the puma exists... and doesnt realize that the soviets CANNOT field decent infantry if they opt for a T-70... you know what? tie the STG to T4 then change the luchs to a panzer 3 with T-70 AI and slightly superior AT for all i care... you will understand the pain of having noodles for core infantry since your brain can only comprehend bullshit on the axis side... 1. the flametruck is extremely powerful in the right hands... 2. its still god tier in the role of wiping infantry.. no other vehicle can come close 3. excuse me? are you retarded enough to think that the 50 cal or the DSHK is better for its price than the MG42? because i would sure prefer a 280 pt MG42 as USF im not retarded maybe the retarded one is u with the fucking dots cal 50 suppress faster and has a much faster almost instant set up time + more damage, i do think it's a better mg but it does cost more ostwind right now has same performance as centaur and is still slower than a cromwell at Speed: 6.3 Accel: 2.1, while having only 110 armor so stop with god tier bullshit now that it works vs AI every unit is powerful in the right hands u still don't know what makes it as "powerful" as u say puma has 0 ai so what u shock with puma ? (if ur argument is that puma counter t 70 so does the su 76) i was referring to ost, if they skip tier 2 ur argument was they could build it when it's need, then it's not a skip anymore right ? like if u see a sniper u build it then u are not skipping In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What do people think of Conscripts after the patch?2 Aug 2019, 15:14 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 14:40 PMgbem double schrecks are extremely powerful... likewise if ever the enemy does make a sniper it is quite easy to change your strategy and opt for a 222 + flame truck + pak 40 strategy since the sniper is most likely going to come out very early anyways then what about the STG volks and the luchs? or from LMG grens and the flametruck? how come i never heard a "too much shock value" complaint from axis mains? fair enough ive made my opinion clear ages ago on the penals and guards... the T-70 being strong is however acceptable seeing as how OST also gets several god tier units of its own (MG-42 flametruck new ostwind) then u don't skip it anymore right ? again it's his choice if risk vs reward luch is not as powerful as t 70 and stg i think does less dps than the 7th man upgrade in cover(but my opinion on stg has always been to remove them and opt for mp40) flame truck can be armed by normal rifles and is quite fragile + 120 muni cost the ostwind got a price addition so now it's not god tier mg 42 works fine for it's price there are better mgs like cal 50 or dshk In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What do people think of Conscripts after the patch?2 Aug 2019, 14:32 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 14:02 PMgbem and now you see them spammed EVERYWHERE while conscripts are still a wet noodle whenever pgrens arrive... plus as an OST player its now perfectly reasonable to skip T2 and the pak 40 to rush a panzer 4 which is quite the developing meta atm... ooooh i wanna try! let me try! grenadier LMGs at BP1 would have too strong of a shock value with the panzer 4 and would be equivalent to deleting the soviets... hence grenadier LMGs should only come out at BP3... are you dumb? i specifically stated "but require the upgradetech to be researched" because its offtopic? just because i didnt mention it here doesnt mean that i find penals to be a non problem spammed ? they still cost the same, and if u want to skip tier 2 ur choice u lose 251 222 and pak 40, so u are that much weaker vs vehicle and snipers it was not my excuse, so don't push it against me, but i do agree that the shock value would be too much with the current t-70 my didn't see it off topic or not people will only see what u write not ur intention, if they do enrf the guards penal and t 70 then yes buff would come as expected In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What do people think of Conscripts after the patch?2 Aug 2019, 13:50 PM and u can counter balance.... volks at close range not long range, pg didn't.... get any stats buff they just come a bit earlier i thought u wanted them ....at tier 1/2 unlock, not tier 3, .....but any way they already.... explained it's not ....at tier 3 cause it would be too.... strong of shock value with the t 70 and reducing tier 3 cost would lead to an even.... earlier t-70 so no again, u are just.... trying to buff everything.... to make soviet op..... i don't see u or anyone talking ...about nerfing guards or penal, what u ....expect people to just believe when they buff cons to nerf the.... other when u never talk about them ? ..... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: British balance - Tommy too strong2 Aug 2019, 13:34 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 07:53 AMSupport Sapper Let take a look at early gane garrison clearing tools of each faction, before 4 minutes mark. OKW: have fame nade when fist truck come out (not event have to built any tech structure). Chep Volk allow get more squad, give more chance to flank, stum deal great dmg close in even vs garrison. UKF: ??? (UC flamer is behind platoon CO and 75 muni, while cant stand long enough for 3 round of fire in front any axis MG) Now coming to the MG of each faction. OKW: Volk do the jobs, Mg34 after fist building, not so great but can suppress and have vẻ 1 magical round. Do the job for the price. Us: M2 locked behind Lieu, great Mg but come un much later. okw flame nade needs to wait same time as ukf tier 1 so ur argument is false (okw starts with 0-5 fuel while ukf starts with 20) and again okw mg 34 comes later than all mgs even the cal 50 so again ur argument is wrong In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Jackson needs some more buffs2 Aug 2019, 13:14 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 13:05 PMKatitof Go back a few posts, wording is bad, but context fits the argument. MOBILE DEDICATED AT UNIT wording is not bad he said dedicated and anyway zook exist In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What do people think of Conscripts after the patch?2 Aug 2019, 13:11 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 12:37 PMgbem a 10% DPS buff would make them LESS useless against volksgrenadier spam that OKW is infamous for... maybe nerfing volksgrenadiers may be a better idea but then tommies and rifles would need a rework aswell the issue is if the upgrade is tied to T3 then the LMG42 will still come significantly earlier than the 7 man scripts... T3 + molly/AT nade + T1/2 costs significantly more than BP1 + T1... T3 alone costs more than BP1+T1 because having the maxim as a viable unit = the end of axis? name one unviable core WM unit... EVERY single unit in the axis arsenal has been buffed to viability... the soviet arsenal remains plagued with the god awful performance of its core infantry (T2 builds considered) and its MG ok let's start by..... now, an overall... 10%dps increase.... would make them too strong ... at long range.... maybe .... just increase the cd at..... close range.... ..... t1+b1 is 55 fu... soviet t1 is 10 t2 is 20...... and the upgrade gives more than just... dps (1 more rifle+ cd reduction in .... cover) it increases durability .... and veterancy gain, 0 second upgrade are ... just bad.... and will lead to cons spam only..... maxim can use ... a buff... to suppression... with a nerf... to set up......but..... all the buff too cons...+ the maxim support.... will lead to a stompy early.... game for soviet deleting osther .... .............. ........... ........ ... . btw... if Soviet is so .... weak... why does it... have such... a good ... win rates ? better than ost ....? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What do people think of Conscripts after the patch?2 Aug 2019, 13:01 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 11:37 AMVykraznar The LMG42 upgrade for Grens comes at battlephase 1, correct? So, around 5 minutes into the game, roughly around the same time for Soviets to get T1/T2. Maybe even earlier. Mobilize reserves costs 50 muni while the LMG costs 60. I don't see how that would make the 7th man upgrade come faster than LMG42s. tier 2 cost 40 fuel ? this is new In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Jackson needs some more buffs2 Aug 2019, 13:00 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 12:58 PMKatitof Is Tiger stock? yea point taken but comet is a generalist with high pen not an at platform In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Jackson needs some more buffs2 Aug 2019, 12:58 PM Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 11:45 AMSkysTheLimit He said AT units not TDs. Comet, AEC both qualify Closest thing US has after Jackson is Stuart so is tiger qualified ? In: COH2 Balance