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Yes but if the second volley comes before the first volley of the pwefer , then it’s the same , or better for the Kat as the first volley will be impossible to doge unlike pwefer

did you test it on a conscript squad? because the katy on my end would only get wipes at the 3rd to 4th volley... never gotten a first volley wipe unless u intentionally clump up my infantry which would inflict bias to the results

by the second volley it killed volks , u can test ur self take a volks a pwefer and a kat, make the volks enemy make the pwefer and the kat fire at the same squad, the kat will kill volks or leave it 10% hp before the pwefer rickets actually lands

o yea 1 test surely is enough to prove ur point, hey yesterday i tested CE vs ober they won once , does that make them OP ? don't worry about showing the actual photage u have to TRUST ME

btw as i already explained kat will better with stationary target and team weapons as they take time to relocate and will generally take 3/4 salvo before they can run

pwefer is better vs blobbed inf, that's why it has suppression

and the kat has much more range too, so stop with " IT'S BETTER THAN KAT" they have different roles

edit: and here is something u can test ur self with no need for many tries, first fire the pwefer then fire the kat, u will actually see that even when u use the kat after the pwefer the salvo will only come down after the second salvo of the kat , so u technically have more time to move with pwefer than kat even if it fires them all together
i believe it's due of the fire aim time being 1,5 second vs the 0,13 of the kat and the actual missile speed + angle being much slower and stepper so the missile of the wefer come down later than the kat second salvo

btw can we turn back on topic ? i know u like to dearly everything but this is like the fourth thread u derail, its about the stug here

conscripts at medium range are a 60/40... conscripts used to win handedly at mid and close range but when their DPS curve was flattened they no longer excel unless ur at hugging distance...

meanwhile grenadiers have the same dynamic as volks vs rifles... volks slaughter grens in cqc while grens are somewhat even but slightly win out at longer ranges...

not from my knowledge, green have about the same long range dps than volks 1.8 x 5 vs 2,26 x 4, and at close range 5.07 x 4 vs 4 x 5 so ABOUT the same, they do have 80 more hp but then green have 0.91 RA

so the problem are not volks,the problem are cons, i already explained how to fix them in the other thread please lets not continue the volks vs cons here too, this is vs rifle

rifle vs vloks is perfectly fine, the problem is the early swarm, the mod team is paling to rework okw and reduce their starting MP so u can't have 4 volks vs 3 rifle

Then IS win vs Obers at long range, so what's the point?

You got 2 units, one equipped with free unlock tools and the other one only with superior raw power, how can you just state that the 2nd units is better than the first one? Volks lose to Riflemen if they aren't allowed to use their tools given freely or given after teching but how is it a fair comparison?
So why suddenly Riflemen +2BARs are becoming the best mainline infantry in your story telling? Why Riflemen should be accounted with dual BARs on late game for their power evaluation but Volks keeped naked early on for the same purpose?

IS do win vs Obers at long range, fortunately for the latest they're hitting the field with grenades to assault the position and denying cover to IS also decrease their firepower. Now follow the same logic with Volks and Rifle and you'll see the flaw in your comparison.

Your math only checking attitude make you miss half of the vision of the game.

"axis get free stuff reeee" every fucking time, they pay more tech for it, would reducing the tech cost and adding the upgrade part separate change anything ? (other than allowing even faster rushes?)

Wait did u expect obers, an anti inf only elite squad that comes a tier 4 and cost 340 MP to not have nades ? REALLY ?

fucking guards have nades and they come at 3 cp

ur lack of math makes u think allies always pay more, while okw still has the most expensive full tech tree, stop with the "AxIs GeT fReE sTuFf rERerERERERe, PlEaSe BuFf AlLiEs"