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Thread: osttruppen31 Jan 2017, 10:58 AM Jump back to quoted post31 Jan 2017, 09:59 AMle_saucisson_masque +1 Listening to low level players is what made relic do poor balance. At least, it seems with the winter balance patch that they finally understood that. There is a reason why no one care, when speaking about balance, at low and medium level player. This reason is that they obviously don t know enough of the game (else they would be better). This is also the reason why every guy shoud put his playercard in signature before they start speaking but that s only my opinion. Actually that is completely wrong. A person with actually little knowledge of the game can simply copy build order and be successful. People who know more about the game are usually moders and caster and that is why Relic chose these people to design the next patch and not Top players. The assumption that playcard is related to knowledge of game mechanics is only that a big assumption. Simply check the playcards of the people doing the WBP. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: What should be BUFFED with certainty?31 Jan 2017, 08:37 AM Jump back to quoted post31 Jan 2017, 02:30 AMelchino7 You can also try to adjust things that doesn't change raw stat performance. On the words of the original "the one who shall not be named", ~~merge~~ "Utility is OP". That is another point. Imo fixing veterancy bonuses and abilities is a bigger priority since it can solve many issues and help some units become more useful. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Some QoL suggestions30 Jan 2017, 10:02 AM Imo bulletin load out should not be visible to enemy players during load since they sometimes and with some faction they give away too much info about the players strategy. In: Lobby
Thread: What should be BUFFED with certainty?30 Jan 2017, 09:20 AM This a rather difficult question to answer since it seems to me that there units that should actually be nerfed. The side affect of continues buff to units and especially in DPS makes fight last less while turning them from tactical to RNG. So until the OP units are nerfed it is hard to tell which should be buffed. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: osttruppen29 Jan 2017, 19:26 PM Ostruppen is actually the most cost efficient infantry Ostheer have. Buffing them more will make grenadiers even worse by comparison. In addition giving them weapon is not the way to go due to their accuracy bonus in cover. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: WBP 1.729 Jan 2017, 13:45 PM Jump back to quoted post29 Jan 2017, 02:10 AMLoopDloop There is a huge discrepancy between centaur and luchs vs existence that is actually justifiable. Ones a light tank with one 20mm autocannon that costs 60-something fuel and arrives with okw t2 and the other ones a (more) heavily armored anti aircraft platform that suppresses infantry that's also slow as hell, costs 100 fuel, and comes with Brit t3. You can't compare them at all. TL DR, luchs=centaur as much as IS=obers. They're not imbalanced, they're just totally different units with superficial similarity. The Centaur already is far more Lethal Luch. In addition it has an almost unique weapon that completely ignores yellow cover and is only partially affect by green. This unique ability to almost ignore cover allows it to engage even ATG frontally and to wipe them out and be lethal vs AT infantry. Imo there is nothing in the units to justify ignoring cover. (Centaur does not suppress by the way.) In: Lobby
Thread: WBP 1.728 Jan 2017, 16:33 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Jan 2017, 16:25 PMMr.Smith Look at it another way. There is a huge discrepancy between Centaur and Luch vs Cover that is not actually justifiable. There also a big discrepancy between Luch and any other weapon (in the game)vs cover. Imo that part of cause of inconstant performance and I am simply pointing out, trying to be helpful. In: Lobby
Thread: WBP 1.728 Jan 2017, 16:14 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Jan 2017, 14:25 PMMr.Smith The Luchs is supposed to be shredding squads that sit outside cover. This is something we hope it is still does. The counterplay to the Luchs is, and should be having your squads remain behind cover. The reason why cover modifiers are so steep is because Luchs ignores all other obstacles between the tank and the target. This is unlike other anti-infantry targets. If we leave things as they were, the Luchs would have particular trouble dislodging MGs that sit in craters. Even if the Luchs is hugging the offending MG, crater cover would not get removed, and the Luchs would take longer to score the necessary hits. If there's a light vehicle hugging an unsupported squad (which is the requirement for the close-combat mechanic), that squad had better retreat. Soviets/USF have bountiful access to Snares. Brits can always choose to delay their teching by a bit to buy some upgrades to support their forces. We also don't want to leave squads behind yellow cover completely unprotected because, luchs accuracy does not care about obstacles inbetween, and Luchs also deals AoE. We might reduce the penalties vs green cover. However, for the time being, we feel that it is useful that a squad can take refuge between a particular type of cover to survive a luchs attack and/or bait the luchs to close in. As I said with the current change the difference in damage from 11 to 10 is huge (X4) and will make the performance completely inconstant. Luch is a unit (maybe the only) with some of the lowest modifier vs infantry in cover which makes very little seance since it is meant to counter infantry and not infantry out of cover. By comparison and again making very little sense Centaur has the some of the highest (four times better). Increasing the damage modifier to at least 50% (I would suggest 75%/100%) as other unit and adjusting damage if need seem to me to far better solution than having high damage only when closing in under 10 unit or out of cover. In: Lobby
Thread: WBP 1.728 Jan 2017, 14:09 PM ///V1.7 UPDATE Panzer 2 'Luchs' We are increasing the consistency of the damage output of the Luchs by eliminating sources of inconsistency other similar units do not normally suffer from. Main gun ignores cover if driven within 10m from enemy squad (like all small-arms weapons)//// Actually this chance will have the exact same result. Luch inconstant damage behavior is related to its extremely low damage modifier vs heavy cover 0.25% instead of standard 0.50. Having a X400% more damage from range 11 to range 10 will make the unit even more inconstant. (generally that is also a fault of the "point blank" mechanism that kick in we no warning to player and with yes/no mechanism instead of linear mechanism. Point blank mechanism should be look at imo, maybe removing 25-50% of cover bonus at range 10 and the rest linearly). With this change the unit will overperform vs unit with no AT/snare while it will UP vs unit with AT. A far better solution would be to make the multiplier 75% and 100% vs green/yellow cover. (While you at it apply the same change to Centuar that is OP vs cover) ///V1.7 UPDATE Retreat Point Decongestion/// Although this changes a good, imo it would be allot better I player where allowed to place a retreat banner near their base. ///V1.7 UPDATE Medkit Ability (veterancy 1)/// Simply remove MU cost and give a long cooldown. Paying MU for heal is simply not worth it in MU starving faction. ///V1.7 UPDATE AEC// Having defensive smoke on a "flanker" unit will rather difficult to balance and with less utility. Replacing the defensive smoke with a long range gun smoke (60 range?) will be better for the unit as it can help UKF dislodge HMGs. (Gun smoke can be removed from Cromwell, unit already have great stats) In: Lobby
Thread: Commando stens25 Jan 2017, 15:58 PM the camo bonus in live some times make move without firing... In: COH2 Balance