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Thread: Ambulance lockdown ability? 4 Sep 2018, 21:17 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2018, 17:17 PMLoopDloop Meanwhile katy has less than half the armor but ok. I don’t see any real problem there but I’m just pointing out the inconsistency of the argument. My objection was to proposed solution of increasing HP, that would make kati far more "tankier" than weffer since it would be able to survive a shot from most ballistic weapons. I doubt that the cases that the "superior" armor of weffer made any difference are noticeable. Can we go back to ambulance now? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Feedback for Commander Revamppatch4 Sep 2018, 21:13 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2018, 20:19 PMJimboSlyce ... I'm not crazy about the idea of upgrading the M3 to a M-21. If I built the M3 in the first place, it was likely because I wanted a rolling reinforcement point or transportation for units (typically units with bazookas). The M-21 on the other hand serves a completely different purpose. If I wanted a M-21 in the first place, I would be really annoyed with having to upgrade the M3 to get it. ... And none forces to refit you M-3 on the other hand an M-3 is difficult to use in late where there are allot of AT while an M-21 is easier to useful in the late game. The idea behind the commander is that one can invest heavily on light vehicles and then replace them vehicles as the game progress and all that is possible with "refit and refuel". I personally find the idea interesting but the current implementation problematic. In: Lobby
Thread: Soviet tank veterancy needs a rework4 Sep 2018, 21:06 PM Most EFA armies units needs to have their abilities, vet abilities, vet bonuses and XP values checked. Some other units need that also like the JT if remember correctly that if one ever manages to get to level 5 he will be glad to know that it is no longer dazed from shots. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Feedback for Commander Revamppatch4 Sep 2018, 13:22 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2018, 12:54 PMStark It is wierd imagine for a new player that implementation of "higher vehicule" could be confusing as well. Where would it be a description (i mean you would have to write down every possible scenerio)- plus what about a abandone tanks? Sounds good but it could end up really confusing for a players. But it's common in this game that stats and values are hidden from a player... What I actually suggested, involved moving the ability from the commander to the vehicle. For instance the WC would have button providing the info about the cost of swapping it for an M-3. The ability would be easier to understand and better balanced, at least in imo. In: Lobby
Thread: Feedback for Commander Revamppatch4 Sep 2018, 12:47 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2018, 12:20 PMTiger Baron I actually have an idea on how to keep the mortar HT, just make it an upgrade for the regular M3 HT. The current implementation of Refit and Refuel is a bit weird. One does not have information of what he is getting back for refitting a unit and the ability can be exploited. I would suggest a redesign so instead of resources one could get a higher vehicle (maybe with a crew of half XP?). For instance WC-51 can be refitted for a M3, M3 can be refitted for M-21 MHT (or even M-20 to greyhound). Now one can invest in little vehicles that progressively get better and have access to all vehicles without using any other slots. In: Lobby
Thread: SOVIET COMMANDER REVAMP DISCUSSION4 Sep 2018, 08:24 AM Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2018, 00:19 AMZombiFrancis Contrary to popular belief, a multitude of abilities (and therefore combinations) do not result in more dynamic commander play. Years of metagame have shown us this. If we focus on streamlining a number of abilities, a level of consistency can be brought to the Soviet commander pool that has never been previously enjoyed. I am encouraged that Relic is exploring merging Defensive Fortifications (Tank Traps) into Entrenching Tools (Barbed-Wire, Sandbags, Trenches), especially after integrating Hit the Dirt into into Guards and conscript PPSh. This is exactly the sort of changes that the EFA commanders need to become more competitive, dynamic, and balanced. I offer my thoughts and ideas on addressing the Soviet faction's commander pool and the metagame. ... Imo the changes in "hit the dirt" (and camo/sprint) where actually bad. First of all Guard's version gives offensive bonuses and Conscript's one defensive ones which is confusing. Guard's version increases DPS/range making one of the most powerful vet 1 ability in an already powerful infantry. In addition it increase the range of PTRS to 42.5 which more than the main gun of tanks. The Conscripts version is "defensive" ability that can be combined with the "offensive" ppsh allowing Conscripts to ourah to point blank range and then "hit the ground". The ability provides the same defensive bonuses of Command PzIV while the penalty in accuracy is not really that bad in close range when one used sgms. From a design point of view one has to either bring all commander abilities to the same powerlevel (pretty hard to achieve) or allow abilities with different power level but make be more careful when combining them so that total power level of the abilities thru out the commander remain about the same. So imo "weaker" abilities should exist to compliment commanders with "stronger" abilities. For instance instead of nerfing stuka dive bomb one should simply remove the Elephant stuka/combo. On the other hand extra weak abilities like tank traps should be merged for both faction. In: Lobby
Thread: Ambulance lockdown ability? 4 Sep 2018, 08:04 AM Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2018, 06:38 AMTactical Imouto Buff katyusha health while ure at it since werfer is tankier Although off topic the argument makes little sense. Werfer Armor: 20/10 Health: 160 Kati Armor: 7/5 Health: 160 Both units have very low Armor and increasing kati HP would mean it would need 2 rounds from a tank to die making allot "tankier" than wefer/stuka. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Storm pioneers are too cheap and too fast to deploy4 Sep 2018, 00:03 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2018, 23:50 PMthedarkarmadillo Why should the Soviet pay a whole slot in a single already shitty commander when Ost is going to have a selection of tank trap+ commanders, and now when every other instance tank traps come with something else? Actually I suggested that soviet tank traps should me merged with the AT/AI mines. I am simply pointing out that a selection of strong and weak abilities should available for all factions. If commanders are to be designed correctly they should be of around "equal power". If for instance each ability a could be valued in scale from 1 to 10 all commanders should have abilities that are valued around 25. Currently there commander with value around 40 and other will value of around 20. For instance: Urban Defense Tactics "Incendiary Artillery Barrage" should be replaced with "IL-2 PTAB Anti-Tank Bombing Run" (good in urban environments)or "IL-2 Precision Bombing Strike" or "mark target". Reason Commander lacks premium medium or heavy call-ins and can use powerful off map. The continues merging of abilities especially one that do not mix well, like camo/sprint and ppsh/hit the dirt is step in the wrong direction. Other very weak abilities like tank traps should be merged. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: M10 extra ability3 Sep 2018, 22:28 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2018, 21:03 PMTiger Baron Maybe like the current Mechanized Group in the revamp patch where the WC51 and M3 are together in 1 ability, making both the M10 and M4 105 Sherman available from the Battalion command post. That would also mimic Baker Company from AA and also free up 2 slots from Armor. Actually the whole idea would that the a commander should not have both AI and AT vehicles as call-ins so that he can not skip teching. Having both dozer and M-10 in the same commander creates problem like having puma and CM PzIV in the same commander that do not have to do with the actual units them selves but with combination. So no, imo it will be far better if both dozer and M-10 remain call-in but in different commanders. That would allow USF to delay major and have access to armor but still have a weakness either in AI or AT. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Storm pioneers are too cheap and too fast to deploy3 Sep 2018, 22:17 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2018, 17:52 PMZombiFrancis ... EFA commanders, especially Soviets, have a problem with a lot of abilities that more or less could be merged (PMD mines, Partisans, Radio Intercept/Spy Network, Armored Vehicle Detection/Mark Target), or made available to the stock faction (Tank Traps, maybe Con PPSh, ATG ambush or Armored vehicle detection with vet), which would make balancing them much more easy. .... They could but I doubt they should. There should be powerful abilities and weak abilities so that commanders can "equal". For instance one strong ability the other weak or many average abilities. In: COH2 Balance