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I'd argue to just keep the Jackson as is then for these changes to go through. Do note I'm advocating for one v ones not team games as that's not my interest (aside from twos every once in awhile). The Jackson should only be slightly increased in price and hp to prevent one shots and two shots but still be three shotted by enemy AT guns.

You can't have both. 3 AT gun shots deal 480 damage, which is live-version Jackson's HP.

I am VERY much against the 1.3 sturmpioneer changes. If those changes go through as they are, I'm going a sturmpioneer into kubel start, and the enemy isnt going to get their cutoff. On some maps, it might honestly be a free win. The 12 second difference in construction time is massive and probably the only reason why we dont see actual double sturm starts.

Ill see if i can get some matches on the mod to illustrate my point (or prove myself wrong)

The parameter that controls reinforcement time is also the parameter that affects build time; so it was easier to just change a value and test what happens; maybe it won't be 3 Volks every game.

Jackson price should probably be reverted with the damage reduction. I would argue it'd need even more penetration though in this case. That and/or an improved rate of fire, at the very least through vet. A better turret rotation speed might help improve its reliability too. (Though IMO that goes for virtually all non-heavy turreted tanks.)

Yeah. Initially we were going for a bigger penetration boost, but we have to make changes more progressively. Though, in hindsight the latest Jackson could go with a price revert.

Note that Vet1 is still unchanged.

I don't see too much reason to use timers for the AA mode for the Schwerer. Making it a toggle alone would be a great change. A delay of a few seconds switching between modes would actually be an interesting dynamic for players to try to time.

We wanted to make a timed ability that was going to force the flak to be AA-only. I couldn't find out how to make this work. The only similar abilities operate on squads.

1. I'm confused because G43 really is called "Jaeger Light Infantry" and there is no command that is called that. What is the commandant of the Werhmacht revamp? Jaeger Inf Doctrine or Lightning War Doctrine?
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Jaeger Infantry Doctrine. It's the one with Camo and G43.

Btw the USF commander being revamped is Mechanized Doctrine (the one with the early car); not Armor Company.

2. I guess it's the walking stuka

Yep!

Captain On Me

Honestly don't know how I feel of this change. One hand I used it for it's combat bonuses and sprint more then breaking suppression but on the other it won't decrease blobbing at all as the whole point for most player who use is to break suppression to allow their blob to remain effective. Honestly I'd support a change for it be applied to one unit like say a Ranger or Rifle squad to quickly move up on a flank and shred supporting weapons. That way On Me doesn't support blobs anymore while remaining a unique and useful ability. Could add a munitions cost to it too.

Making it affect singular squads with old stats could work.

Jackson

Why these changes? With the nerf to damage it'll take another shot to destroy heavier enemy tanks which the whole purpose of the Jackson is to counter heavy axis armor. How does having a extra 6% pen (at long range where a Jackson should be unless supported and against a Panther the most common "heavy" axis armor) compensate the lowered amount of damage as now a extra shot is needed to take out a Panther unless you get to veterancy one at which you have to deal with the long aim time. It's taking another key strength of the Jackson away as that 200 damage lets that AT grenade or bazooka shell knock off that last little piece of HP which I can attest to that can be the difference between a tank limping away or turning into a hunk of scrap.

We either have to keep Jackson at 480HP, where a single mistake means no heavy AT for USF. The moment we step out of that threshold, the only reasonable option is to set damage back to 160 and play around that area with price changes, reload time changes and accuracy changes. Otherwise, it becomes a nightmare for OST to engage a durable jackson.

Mr. smith, is there any chance that you guys could change the cons sandbags to the smaller one? That huge sandbag is just retarded, you can't use against the points to deny cover and it get smashed very easily by vehicles because they occupy so much space.

Not to mention they cant fit on most places.

I wish there was a way to make the smaller sandbags not fit against control points, instead, cause it's such a no-brainer.

Conscript sandbags at least force you to think of a way to place them strategically, or force you to tie up your engineers to put up a wire.

It is a huge deal...

You're making a gross assumption on gameplay here.

The tank may die, yeah, sure. But it gets time to fire another round. It takes another round to kill that isn't going towards other advancing tanks. And of all factions, usf can hop out and superglue the engine damage if the axis forces have to pull back.

I place tellers all over the place. It's one of the ways I play teamgames when I'm the sole ostheer player.

But if you say it's not a huge deal, who the hell am I to disagree, eh?

OKW will still have an easy way of dealing with the Jackson using JP4, or stealthed raketens. They have a lot of options.

I just want to make sure that OST also has counter options available to them, other than "USF player failed to minesweep the area".

On USF changes I'd say Jackson should be 600 hp or 540. 640 hp is too much for a turreted TD when used by a competent player even with the increased cost and nerfed moving accuracy.

The primary faction the new Jackson overperforms against in DBP is OST. Changing Jackson HP to anything other than a full revert will probably make things even worse than they were before.

In the best case, this won't change anything vs OST (stug and Panther will both require 4 shots each to kill the Jackson).

In the worst case, Jackson will continue getting 1-shot by sturmtigers, or 2-shot by HEAT shells, or 2-shot by JT/Elefant. This will make Jackson even worse in those late-game situations than before, since it now costs more than before.

HP has to stay either at 480 or 640, and something else has to give. e.g., we could drive damage down to 160, but increase penetration by 25% to compensate; that way Stug counterplay remains a possibility, and Jackson can perform its late-game role properly.

Also, RE receiving smoke grenades seems out of place and is a major nerf to USF infantry play. RE already function well as a engineer unit that can get weapons upgrades and putting smoke grenade on them makes little sense. It's unnecessary change that forces the US player buy more then one RE simply to have mobile smoke as the mortar takes ages to drop smoke at times. USF is meant to have smoke on their mainline infantry to allow major pushes with multiple points of smokes to covering different approaches. Aside from that the USF changes seem fine.

The reasons for moving smoke from RE to Riflemen are multiple:
- Giving smoke to RE gives them a combat role, where they lacked any before
- Removing smoke from Riflemen, makes them less of an 1-unit army that puts elite infantry into shame, but still allows them to perform well for cost
- This increases the added value of USF Elite Infantry, which were massively overshadowed by Riflemen; rather than being the non-meta option you go for to surprise people, those doctrines now actually become more competitive to non-elite infantry doctrines
- It allows RE to better synergise with USF Elite Infantry
- It prevents lategame USF play from degrading into Jacksons & Riflemen
- It turns USF army synergy from Riflemen-centric to Infantry-centric
- It allows USF late-game to transition to lower-upkeep Rear Echelons, without abandoning their smoke
- Incentivising players to build tanks other than Jacksons (since both M4 and M8 have access to smoke)

Finally, Riflemen smoke is massively powerful vs OST, where USF does OK against, and almost useless vs OKW where USF gets their ass handed back to them in spades.

To compensate for early lack of Smoke, the USF mortar is now the best smoke dispenser platform in the game. Try it out, and let us know how the faction feels.

If the changes work, without getting USF MG-pinned in the early game, it will be a healthier state of balance with more synergy involved.