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Thread: WTF is the logic behind the brace structure ability?30 Dec 2015, 01:25 AM Jump back to quoted post30 Dec 2015, 00:22 AMRappy During the soft retreat for 30 seconds, they heal to full health. And you know the OKW counter can't retreat either? It's very nice of you to stop bombarding it while your opponent repairs the non-functional mortar pit. And the OKW counter has the rather significant advantage of being able to move. It is rather funny that people complain about brace when it's rather close to what entrenched positions were actually like. WW1 had taught that artillery was unlikely to actually destroy entrenched positions (and boy did they try). Instead arty bombardments were used to suppress (i.e. force them to brace) and follow up with an attack before the positions could be re-established. In game there are more than enough highly effective counters to emplacements. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: British Base Howi's28 Dec 2015, 22:22 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Dec 2015, 21:26 PMSpinflight I realise it isn't a historical simulation however the reason detre behind the British adoption of an 88mm rather than the 105s preferred by most other western Forces might give a hint as to the direction this could go. Larger numbers of lower calibre artillery was preferred for their ability to suppress enemy troops, also for volume massed fire against armoured formations. Indeed artillery was the prime cause of tank kills, both from indirect fire and the 25pdrs added role of anti-tank gun with a supercharged red powder bag ( direct fire, nowt to do with the COH range increase). Also British doctrine put a heavy emphasis on smoke when assaulting an enemy position. Creeping barrages ( for which the 25pdr was considered a bit heavy) of HE then smoke so the infantry could get close in and personal. Very information heavy site for arms geeks here... http://nigelef.tripod.com/RAorg.htm Both NGFS and inland fires called for timely weight of accurate fire. Now clearly the current ability is neither timely, weighty nor accurate. I don't claim to be a good player, although I do have a 100% win rate ( at least until I play my second game), so am just looking to give some historical foundation on which those who know the game mechanics more intimately could comment... Thanks for this! I look forward to reading the article when I get the time. From my somewhat limited knowledge of WW2 artillery, I'm led to believe that CoH2 doesn't really represent artillery very well. A small example of this is that the US were pretty damned good with their artillery - to the point where rocket arty wasn't a priority because they could get the same effect with time on target barrages. Same applies to the brits. I would like to see all gun artillery buffed a bit. Something like adding tank criticals to the shells, but I doubt that will happen any time soon. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pak 43 vs 17 Pounder Population costs.22 Dec 2015, 16:57 PM 20 pop cap cripples the 17pdr. For comparison the Jagdtiger is 21 pop cap. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sherman Firefly21 Dec 2015, 15:23 PM Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2015, 14:50 PMBlalord i putted in bold the irony in your post. Seems that you forget that a lot of units depends in ammo to do some great things, now they tried to add it in Tank gameplay, and its a cool thing. now if you dont understand that you dont play with a Firefly the same way you play with others TD, you should just not build Firefly Again you're extrapolating a point that rather specifically did not say. Would you like me to do the same? Would you like me to say you're implying that every tank in the game is bloody identical? It's pretty pathetic really. Try reading more thoroughly. I'll try one last time. Many units in the game do good stuff in addition to their main role with munitions spend. For an alpha strike the Firefly requires munitions spend. If the main role of the Firefly is the alpha strike from tulips then it's the only one that outright requires munitions spend. I'll even go further and say that if this is the case then the firefly gun is too weak for its cost or the tank itself is overpriced. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sherman Firefly21 Dec 2015, 11:36 AM Jump back to quoted post21 Dec 2015, 09:08 AMBlalord - The first i can't think of any other unit that can one shot a medium with a 100 ammo investment. If you think that 100 ammo is not worth 300+ MP and 100+ Fuel you are just ... wrong. Seems that you want all tank to do exactly the same, much flavor, much unique, much wow. - Historical argument ? Why ? In case you hadn't noticed, the game is at least loosely based on the events of 1939-1945. You might want to look it up. But since you've missed my point entirely anyway, let me rephrase it for you. I was pointing out that if you say the value of the firefly is primarily in its alpha strike, then it's the only unit in the game that requires munitions at every encounter to do its primary job. Yes its powerful enough to one shot a stationary medium. Plenty of units kill mediums without spending munitions. You can ignore that I said historical if you want - the point stands that the tank exists because of its (currently lackluster) main gun and not the tulips attached to it. Or if you want it in game terms the value of the tank should be in the 440/155 part (you know, the most expensive dedicated TD in the game short of an Elefant/Jagdtiger) and not the 50+100 per shot munitions part - bringing it in line with how every other unit in the game works. At no point did I say I wanted all tanks to do the same thing, so please take your strawman and shove it elsewhere. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sherman Firefly20 Dec 2015, 12:48 PM I see two problems with the Firefly as an alpha strike unit argument. The first is that I can't think of any other unit that outright requires a hefty munitions spend at every engagement to do its job. One off munitions upgrades, sure - but the alpha damage from the Firefly requires 100 muni at every encounter and often that simply isn't possible. The second is a more vague historical argument - but the Firefly was used for its gun, not because they mounted rockets on a few of them. A tank's primary armament should be what you build it for, and in this area the Firefly isn't that impressive. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Cromwell too good for the cost20 Dec 2015, 01:35 AM Guess this is the next nerf crusade then. By my reckoning the Cromwell and the Vickers are the only two stock brit units that haven't been nerfed one way or another since launch. I've never really got much out of the Cromwell personally. Always felt a bit random if a shot would land or not against inf, and has to run from volks with shrecks. Never cared much for crush as a mechanic either. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Mark target19 Dec 2015, 17:33 PM For curiosity's sake - what's the duration on Mark Target? It has been a while since I was on the receiving end, but I do seem to remember it lasted for what felt like ages. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sherman Firefly18 Dec 2015, 21:13 PM Simply put the problem with the Firefly is that it relies on spending a ton of munitions to achieve much of anything. Off hand I believe the base DPS is lower than any of the other late game TDs. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Coh 2 voices18 Dec 2015, 14:45 PM These are all ripped from the game's sound files. There's a thread full of similar videos here: http://www.coh2.org/topic/35266/company-of-heroes-2-voices What I love about these though is that it shows just how much work Relic put into the voices. For example, in those videos both the ostruppen and MG42 have lines for being told to attack an elefant. The chances of a german MG42 going up against an Elefant are practically nil outside of custom games, and even then it's pretty rare - yet they have a line for it anyway. The downside is that it makes adding new stuff pretty hard, since old factions can only use generic lines. This is why no unit will ever acknowledge the Pershing as anything other than an enemy tank (and the Pershing itself only uses generic US armour voices). In: COH2 Gameplay