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Thread: Heavy Tank CP18 Nov 2019, 18:00 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Nov 2019, 17:59 PMT.R. Stormjäger Put heavy tanks at 25CP and Heavy TDs at 32CP, the close whatever thread opens up about UP heavies. Did you watch the tourney or do you not care about what the top players do? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Heavy Tank CP18 Nov 2019, 17:57 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Nov 2019, 17:44 PMelchino7 While we are at it, is it necessary for Tigers and IS2 to gain range at vet 2 ? What about moving it to vet 3 with mobility increase going to vet 2? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Heavy Tank CP18 Nov 2019, 17:15 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Nov 2019, 16:48 PMVipper It would help much as band aid. The problems are: Super heavy timing/efficiency TDs efficiency at range 60 The fact that during the tournament the majority of games involved at least doctrinal 1 Super heavy should be a clear indication that these unit over-perform and the problem of "stalling" for super heavy that the previews patch aim to solve, has become even worse since it not even "stalling" now. Not saying OKW's tech is the only problem with the current heavy meta, I do have a different view on it though. These are the changes I'd like to see currently: - Make all the main heavies 11 CP, so it becomes advisable to get a medium first. - Reduce armor on IS2 from 375 to 350, so non-doctrinal units work better against it. - Reduce reload speed on Tiger slightly. - Change OKW tech so P4 can arrive earlier, reducing the need of going Tiger to compete (post #57). It could also help if Panther got reworked by reducing its durability while cutting cost and pop. Something like 170 fuel, 800 HP, 16 pop. That way Axis can more popcap efficiently fight against heavies while keeping enough anti-infantry on the field. The Tiger fulfills allot more roles than the Panther for just 45 more fuel and 3 more pop. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sniper Tweaks18 Nov 2019, 15:52 PM If only units like Paths and JLI were actually used in a supportive role, instead of blobbed with BAR's (Paths) or beating any squad one on one in cover anyway (JLI). You'd have to completely remove the personal firepower of squads like those and keep the crit before they actually stay true to their role. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Heavy Tank CP18 Nov 2019, 15:32 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Nov 2019, 15:30 PMVipper The problems would remain: 1) The cost efficiency of super heavies combined with their timing, units that PzIV can not reliably penetrate even if it manages to flank. 2) The effectiveness of 60 range TDs to counter mediums even at max range. A probability of (nearly) 100% to do damage to medium at max range goes against both basic game mechanics, armor/accuracy. In the current state mediums have little place. It would definitely help though, a heavy wouldn't show up ~3 minutes after your P4, but more like ~5 minutes. Gives allot more time for your medium to make an impact. Could also decide to get a JP4 after your P4 instead of going for panzer authorization, to save some fuel and provide solid tank force against heavies. Something that's very expensive to do currently. This suggestion is purely for OKW, who has the latest timing on its medium, almost forcing you to get a heavy unless you're ahead. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Heavy Tank CP18 Nov 2019, 15:23 PM Make it more tempting to get a P4 with OKW's teching. Something like: - Schwerer costs 100 fuel, has Obers, JP4 and 120 fuel Ostheer P4. - Panzer Authorization costs 20 fuel, allows P4 to upgrade skirt + scatter for 20 fuel. Also unlocks Panther, doctrinal heavies, LMG upgrade for Obers, as usual. Now it's more tempting to get a medium out as OKW over the Tiger, because timing is more in line with other factions. As this is a straight up timing buff, you could probably nerf some other aspect of the faction. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sniper Tweaks18 Nov 2019, 14:52 PM Jump back to quoted post18 Nov 2019, 14:51 PMT.R. Stormjäger That’s even worse, soviets have 4 medics in base. What do they do? Spend a minute healing each squad? If your opponent would use his high cost 300~ mp Sniper just to damage your squads so you have to heal slightly longer, then that sounds like a bad deal to me. He'd be better off supporting his sniper so it can get easy kills. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sniper Tweaks18 Nov 2019, 14:50 PM - In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sniper Tweaks18 Nov 2019, 14:49 PM - Keep current snipe range and cover and such. - Change Sniper damage from instadeath to 79HP, not affected by cover. - Let Sniper always target lowest health model of a squad. - Give Sniper damage modifier against other Snipers. - Buff RA a bit, cut price and pop. Now Sniper can't go rambo on lone squads, but always needs fire support from other units. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Heavy Tank CP18 Nov 2019, 13:46 PM OKW's P4 comes very late compared to mediums of other factions. OKW Tiger comes around same time as heavies of other factions. IMO this is the reason most people go meta offensive. In: COH2 Balance

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