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That too. Out of all allied factions, UKF has objectively the best end game with comets or churchills.

No, this is subjectively. I would say for instance, soviet is "objectively" the best allied late game faction in the big team modes. Churchills are just damages sponges which level your opponent Panthers. Furthermore this game doesn't need a damage spoon, because you can choose your targets. Comets on the other side were nerfed a little bit too much. Both take a lot of population space. In big game modes there are always multiple Panthers if you have multiple Comets. Comets doesn't perform very good versus Panthers.

Soviet has all the tools allied team needs in late game. Compared to UKF you have way better offmaps (especially for killing howitzers), you have the best limited (super) heavy tanks, a howitzer on your own, a strong nondoc rocket artillery piece and the best TD in allied team when it comes to cost efficiency and damage dealt in comparison to population space.

Brits only shine when it comes to mainline infantry.

When I'm playing Axis in the big game modes the things that bother me the most are mostly soviet units/abilties and some USF ones.

I do think a big problem of Rapid Conscription / Relief Infantry is that you don't want to add new Vet0 Conscript or Osttruppen squads in later game stages. The mechanic of the game is to keep vetted troops alive and add in more powerful higher tech units. So this ability gets rapidly weaker with time.

So just a quick thought I had as I was reading this: While ability is active you get a chunck of manpower for each soldier dying. Easy to implement at both factions and a real helpful ability if you are still playing with mass infantry / team weapons in the late game and your opponent is bleeding you out. You are swapping munition for manpower in the end. You can cap manpower you get at some point of course.

So we can all be happy now, because we all are right, isn't that genious...

...Rangers with triple Super Bazooka has highest DPS in general,

...while PFs with double Shrek obliterate enemy medium armor in the same way because of them having lower armor. PFs are overall the best infantry AT unit (taking into account all factors like cost/bleeding/versatility and so on).

Isn't that a great outcome? Reading through various posts it is what we all talked about the whole time. So we can take what we want and be happy with it. I by myself can still say both are too good. Great!

I don't think AT squads can ever be too OP. Well, they can but you get my drift.

My argument: At the time where shrecks and triple zooks come online, you have medium tanks and plenty of AI power. Now if you run your shrecks/zooks solo. One, maybe two squads running around, you will be forced to retreat coming about another infantry (unless pio or echelon or sth like that). If you do run into a medium tank, a medium will always have an upper edge. That is, you can bleed the squad with occasional backing away.
The main thing that separates fussies from ranger zooks is the fact they also have snare. A triple zook squad will never down anything above a 222 solo, and if you blob it with rifles, you risk a pretty substantial bleed.

So all in all, unless 5 zooks or 6 PTSRs or 4 shrecks are introduced, infantry carrying AT weapons will always be OK. One thing that would not be ok if they had some sort of fast AI power like the bundled nade. I'm not against the bundled on Pgrens but it does make them super strong with double shrecks.

Thanks god Fussies with shrek upgrade loose their snare. I don't mind the matchup of one AT squad versus one medium tank. In most cases the medium tank will bleed the squad. My concerns are:

1) Light AI vehicles/tanks really get obsolete once these are on the field, you can flank an AT-Gun but its impossible to flank infantry AT squads. In case they attack you: One moment of distraction and your light vehicle/tank is gone.
2) Short range AI tanks (Hetzer / KV-2) have a much bigger problem than other mediums tanks inspite of beeing dedicated AI. That is somehow sad.
3) In bigger game modes you see multiple squads at some point, thats really annoying. You can chase them away for a moment if you have rocket artillery but getting wipes on 5man squads is hard to achieve.
4) I personally strongly dislike the concept of chasing tanks with infantry AT weaponary because it is soo much more unrealistic than other aspects of this game that are unrealistic already in this arcade war game. I would really like to give all of them a way shorter reload but a much higher aim time to turn them more into a defensive option.

If in your opinion AT PF are OP or AT ranger UP I suggest you start a thread about.

What is this about? Are you doing it on purpose? I postet in this side of the thread three times that double shrek and triple Super Bazooka are both too much. #165 / #167 / #169

In addition I wrote that double shrek / triple bazooka is quite comparable after all. #167 / #169

You even agreed somehow. #166


I don't know if you twist my words or if you are not reading my post completely. Clearify that please.

Either you have arguments/facts that you want to post to contradict my last posts about a comparable performance of double shrek / triple Super Bazooka or you can call it a day and agree with me.

So are there facts that contradict my argument? Let me know please.