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I don’t call much of the previously mentioned items that are in the franchise very authentic, so if the words* used ie historical accuracy and authentic mean that fiction can occur as it has in the franchise, black prince is still thematic to the product. |
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Unfortunately for you this thread doesn't lock on your tailored idea of historical accuracy. They were terrible tactical weapons.
So it was extremely un historical in COH that they could be launched pin point accurate onto individual squads and units if you so wished. Go figure un historical items in a video game. |
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Relic is making a game, if history was the ultimate concern that would have been some boring multiplayer as you'd permanently have COH 1 war machine and they even dropped that idea from COH2 soviets which was a bit un historical. |
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The record of aerially launched V1s at southern England the UK analysts weren't sure which of two cities were their intended target from the spread of the rockets. That's a strategic target they cant reliably hit. I mean to say the v1 was a reliable tactical weapon as its represented in COH is outrageously fictional, I'm not sure what kind of justification you need but history shows it as a strategic weapon not a tactical one. |
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And did they achieve a 100% on target rate like the COH1 V1? |
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So again for the numerous times, COH is a work of historical fiction already because its a game, Black Prince is likely coming and id doubt its full removal or adding a German unit as well as that would tilt balance the other way.
So reiterating again, to maintain the games designed balance its likely staying put. The only successful suggestion I could see them implementing is a unit with identical stats just with a different model. Certainly don't see them adding an axis unit to solve this gatekeeping of some kind of historical accuracy. |
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You are doing some heavy tailoring there but allow me. The V1 relied on recon of a known position and time to construct a ramp and set the auto pilot, for a chance to hit an area. The targets generally being cities. Id cast serious doubt on its ability to hit a bridge with a singe deployment. So yes, fiction on a heavy level and certainly again not used on single positions of troops on a platoon or battalion level as COH1 depicted. Quite often as a counter to USF base howitzers as I remember (in the game not life). |
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I'm talking of the games fiction, that you as a player just placed them where ever you pleased in a split moment. They were not used against a battalion of troops moving along. So yea, pure fiction. |
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V1 isn't a story of its own, its tactical use is pure fiction. They didn't run out and make a ramp to launch one at a moving tank column.
And yes, I am aware the Luftwaffe existed post Bodenplatte, but its ability to make significant change on the landscape was very limited so in the games context, fictional.
And yes, the Sturmtriger regiments as any other would have kept records of being deployed. But is success out in the field has not earned it anywhere near its reputation in COH as a franchise. It did great when its target was a city, what it was meant for. This changed when its target was tactical not strategic.
So again, Relic has little regard for Fictional history. Black prince cant simply vanish as that will break their product day one. So the discussion cant just be oh remove it, or add these other units last moment. |
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V1s didn't participate in tactical combat, Bergetigers didn't recover complete wreck vehicles, The Luftwaffe didn't participate much after Boddenpatte and they are present in the franchise doing so. I think its fairly clear that Relic tailors fiction to suit a narrative, and I'm fine with the Black prince, its not very out of this world and especially not in Relics franchise context.
I mean if they've been balancing the unit to be an allied heavy to counter the Tigers presence, I wouldn't want them to remove it and create balance issues. Since Relic doesn't care about timelines of units and you are obsessed with the deployment thing, they could add another allied heavy with he same stats from another time period in the war I guess. But simply removing the Black Prince alone is a pretty non starter and Relic isn't just going to create a vacuum, that means day one broken balance. |
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