why by ur logic both have barrage and are indirect unit ? if luch and m20 have same purpose(cue they don't)then m8a1 and pak howy should have same purpose
dont use double standards please
They simply have different mechanism that cause them serving different purpose. If you take away the auto fire and hit ground from Scott, then stuka and Scott is comparable. But then, Scott will be so underpowered when compare to stuka.
And M8A1 is not comparable to Pack howitzer since they have completely different mechanism(vehicle vs team weapon) although they serve the same purpose |
If he goes Stuka, you can get a Sherman to counter, it cost almost the same. Play aggressive with the Sherman and your rifleman and you can nullify the Stuka pretty much.
This is a bit off topic again. We are not here to talk about how to counter stuka. You can spam arguments further into if he goes sherman, you can get an ATG to counter and protect your stuka, it costs cheaper. But it is meaningless.
The problem has to be addressed is USF has no equivalent option in stock like stuka to counter heavy static play which shuts down a lot of strategic option when playing USF. |
again m20 is not luch, luch is a light tank, u are comparing luch to m20 while saying pak m8a1 are not comparable to stuka when they are both long range indirect fire platform
u are just another hypocrite on this site
You simply don't understand the way to compare units. Luch and M20 are comparable because they both serve a shock purpose with same mechanism which is a vehicle. What makes them difference is their performance which is the armour and the DPS, hence they have different cost. But scott and stuka are simply not serving the same purpose as I have explained many times already. |
again, 1v1 wise. This game is all about asymmetrical balance, imagine how boring would it be if every faction has the same units and etc. Saying this, every faction have his unique playstyle, USF may not have a good defensive stance, but they are great on assaults with a lot of smokes and mobility. Same goes with Ostheer that are better in defense and etc.
It is still asymmetrical balance with priest comes with stock. I am not requesting a same unit. It is actually boring when you have to pick priest/calliope commander everytime to deal with stock unit. My suggestion simply promote more strategic options and diversity for playing USF. |
No way do the Kubel and M20 serve the same role. The M20 is a shock unit, minelayer and sniper hunter. The Kubel is a capping vehicle.
If you are talking about a vehicle for shock purpose, you get luch, which has better performance then M20 and it is a decent sniper hunter also. Note that a unit can have multiple role and each role may have different target to compare. |
same for kubel and m20 but by ur logic both are the same cause when it fits ur argument u use i, if used as a counter argument it's not ok
because kubel and m20 share the same mechanism and serve the same purpose. But stuka and pak and m8a1 doesn't share the same mechanism and serve different purpose in nature.
they are simply totally different kinds of unit that serve totally different purpose. You don't need to hold the line and stay in front line permanently to maximize your output when using mobile rocket artillery,
And no, I didn't say kubel and m20 are the same. They have different performance. But they serve the same purpose. |
His name is Scott and he lives in T4. You should say hi some time, some people even argue that he's OP because he has a fast shell velocity and in pairs can make short work of infantry and he can even fire constantly unlike the Stuka which has a long recharge and if you get unlucky with spread might not even get any kills.
Scott is not the same kind of unit as stuka which I have explain to Stug life in details already. Please spend some times to read. The performance of scott is out of the scope of this thread. You can start another thread if you want any change to it. |
May I remind you that you brought up the Sherman in the first case? How hypocritical are you to accuse someone of going off topic, when you brought the off topic topic up in the first place.
No, it's ShadowLinkX37. As I don't want my topic to be derailed anymore, so I stopped you. If you feel offense, I apologize. |
"OKW gets a doctrinal unit so USF needs to have their doctrinal unit turned into a stock unit" Makes sense to me!
No, it is because OKW getting a stock mobile rocket artillery unit so USF needs to have stock mobile artillery unit. Since you need something to replace the original doctrinal unit in the commander, so it is better to have doctrinal 105 mm howitzer for USF as well since OKW get doctrinal lefh. |
kubel has no armor no mines the mg is shit etc it’s not like the m20
kubel without armor and mg is shit is a performance issue. You can complain it by starting another thread.But of course, its performance is determined by its cost and arrival time also, so it should be worse than M20 in general. Anyway, you still have this kind of unit that serve the same purpose as M20 as a recon unit in stock. And for the mine problem, you get it with strum. So you can simply start another thread if you want mine on kubel instead of strum. But you don't lack mine to ambush vehicle in stock. |
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