Profile of Esxile

i always go m20 against ost, it jsut so great harass their mainline infanty.
222 can never dive for the kill because of rifleman covering and crew bazooka.
AT gun can never catch it because the mobilebility and smoke.
however i didn't catch your process that ost can't go pg whit panzerschreck but have to go back T2.
can you explain more about it?

My opponent went 222 to counter the m20 probably because the m20 is an easier target to the 222 than the AAHT. And I don't think that pzshreck are really good vs the M20, I've also face it and more than often shreck are missing at max range, its quite rare to see one salvo fully connecting. The M20 is also more mobile, if you see the shreck squad on the left, just go right.

1 obers are tier 3 inf and cost more 2 vet requirements are very different but anyway 3 i don0't have a recording software so u will have to do with IMG

https://imgur.com/a/SEm0Rmh

first tried vet 3 vs vet 3 and it's around 70% for obers, while at vet 3 vs 1 (more realist scenario since they come later and cost more so more vet requirement) the rifle wins 80% of the times


if u expect rifle with bar to beat ober with lmg at long range tho, u better get the bias glass off or ask for nukes

now i will ask u to show me vet 3 and 5 volks with stg beat vet 3 rifle bars
or at least provide some stats

You were the one claiming Rifles squad are the best infantry squad in town. They are not, end of the story.

I do not expect anything, I know as a fact that USF is the only faction without stock elite infantry thus need better mainline infantry on the long run cuz end game matters as much as early game. Does it make them the most cost effective infantry? nop again volks remains that even if there lose their engagement vs rifles.

Your question should be PG+HMG+ optional Ostruppen or Assgren

I'm playing mainly 1vs1 at the moment but AAHT isn't the best option imo even in 2vs2. Yes it does suppress but has a lack of pushing power and too clunksy to be super viable on many maps. Plus AAHT is really bad vs HMGs if they are well positioned.

I rather go T1 + M20 with the support of an HMG. The M20 is faster and more maneuvrable and has smoke. Its killing power is bette than the AAHT and last but not least you get it twice faster on the field.

On my last games vs such strat I'm pretty sure to have force a T2 build + 222 just because I went M20 and was destroying their infantry. I say that because a normal 222 usually hit the field a minute after a M20 but in those matches they were there much later letting me suppose 222 wasn't part of their initial plan.


There is definitively an issue with Pgren hitting the field so early, not only because of shreck but because of their stat vs what kind of mainline infantry they meet at 4 minutes mark. As USF you have at maximum 1 BAR, UKF and Soviet are maybe ok since Penals and IS are stronger but the matchup Ostheer / USF is completely fucked up with the capacity for ostheer to build dual HMGs to stale early game and 4 minutes Pgren.
What's definitively wrong is such strat force you to invest more fuel to effectively counter the pgren while he's saving his own fuel by not building tiers.

Why no all HMGs?

If we could cut his vision by half when cloaked that would probably be enough.

Reason for that is it prevent to use it as a scout unit and can't spot for itself when going into hunt behind enemy lines.