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I suggest you repeat my test.

What are the stats for sapper_vickers_k_machine_gun_mp? because that is what tommie probably use.

It's moving accuracy is 0.5.

Yeah, CoH2_RGDTools is definitely the missing piece for extracting the stats from the live version. I've been trying to get my hands on this for quite some time already but to no avail since, as you said, all links to the file seem to have died long time ago. Would be absolutely awesome and much appreciated if you, or the author of the site you quoted, were so kind as to share it.

Also agree that another hotfix down the road addressing this (and potential other issues still waiting to be discovered) would be really sweet. Very likely not gonna happen, but I'd love to stand corrected

Good news MMX!
I contacted the original owner(K.CS) of the file. And he willingly shared the file. You can download it from the google drive.

I just came home now, so I haven't used it yet. But I think we've just found the missing piece.

but if the author indeed found a way to parse the current unit stats in some way that would be huge. I've tried to extract those from the game files before but haven't found any way to read or convert relics .rgd format into a readable form (there's a DoW3 .rgd converter out there but I couldn't make it work for CoH2). Do you have any info by chance on how they did this?

It seems we had something called "CoH2_RGDTools_v1.2a" dedicated for the CoH2 RGD conversion. Which got lost when relicforum died. But some Korean users including the author had local copy of the file.

I already have asked author if he can share the file with me, and would it be okay for me to publish it.
I hope to have a positive feedback. If I do, I'll share the file

I am responding to this :
"So it takes about x3.65+ times more to deal same dmg. in move. Which kinda makes sense if Vickers K has 25% moving accuracy instead of 60% as changelog suggests."

I used BAR as example because there are meant to be similar, if you take a bolt action or LMG the connection between moving accuracy modifier and DPS would probably be even less linear.

Oh, okay. I see your point.

Just for the reference, did same test with 2 bar.

Takes 40 sec. in stationary (which is somewhat close to the Vickers K) & 1 min. 7 sec. while in move to wipe the squad. about x2 times faster than Vickers K.

I used BAR as example because there are meant to be similar, if you take a bolt action or LMG the connection between moving accuracy modifier and DPS would probably be even less linear.

Well, bar & Vickers K both are LMG and ppl tend to say Vickers K is somewhat "clone" of the bar. So it would be logical to assume they do share similar stats. Right?

I am not even sure why you are focusing exclusively on accuracy...

That's because as I have spoked in other thread, the site I use to check stat of the CoH2 units says vickers K has different stat from the changelog.

From the site:
Vickers K
accuracy: 67.5%/54.5%/37.5%
range: 4/16/35
...
moving accuracy: 25%
moving burst: 75%
moving cooldown: 75%

And I quote here the original author about his comment on Vickers K:
" 또, 이동사격이 가능해졌는데, 패치로그와 다르게 이동명중 보정이 25%로 매우 나빠져서, 돌격 중에는 제대로 맞추기 힘들어졌습니다. 암만 봐도 버그같다..."

Roughly translating it to
"... and fire while moving is possible now, but unlike the patch log, moving accuracy modifer is 25% which is very low, you hardly can expect them to hit anything while in move. Seems like the bug for sure..."

So the author of the site is well aware of the changelog, and he does parse the data from the in-game somehow. And saying the in-game data is differ from the changelog.

And let's be honest here. It's not the first time Lelic made a mistake like this.

Same changelog says Raid section can upgrade 1 Vickers K with 60 muni. when drops one, but they actually can't.

i cant do the test now but i suggest comparing TTK of tommy 2 vicker k and tommy 2 bar while moving on a same squad. If the vicker k is a bar clone (closely) the TTK should not have too much difference.

Did a quick test in same condition,

no-video tho.. started at 21:33, last model dropped at 22:40 so 1 min. 7 seconds. about x2 times faster than Vickers K



BTW, can anybody tell me how to upload local pic directly to the coh2.org? Do I really have to use other site to upload & paste link to it?