Is Vickers K moving accuracy is really 60%?

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 07:13 AMMMX

Yeah, CoH2_RGDTools is definitely the missing piece for extracting the stats from the live version. I've been trying to get my hands on this for quite some time already but to no avail since, as you said, all links to the file seem to have died long time ago. Would be absolutely awesome and much appreciated if you, or the author of the site you quoted, were so kind as to share it.

Also agree that another hotfix down the road addressing this (and potential other issues still waiting to be discovered) would be really sweet. Very likely not gonna happen, but I'd love to stand corrected

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 12:53 PMVipper

Same set up moving they did around 3.36 DPS which is half, thus moving accuracy modifier can not be 25% and the number 60% accurate.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 12:56 PMleithianz

Well,

"Infantry_vickers_k_machine_gun_mp.txt" says otherwise.

| | moving: {
| | | accuracy_multiplier: 0.25f;
| | | burst_multiplier: 0.75f;
| | | cooldown_multiplier: 0.75f;
| | | disable_moving_firing: false;
| | | moving_end_time: 0f;
| | | moving_start_time: 0f;
| | };


And JFYI, there is only few Vickers K

which are...
for all inf:
infantry_vickers_k_machine_gun_mp

for heavy sapper:
sapper_vickers_k_machine_gun_mp

For UC upgrade:
vickers_k_universal_carrier
vickers_k_universal_carrier_suppression

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 12:59 PMVipper

I suggest you repeat my test.

What are the stats for sapper_vickers_k_machine_gun_mp? because that is what tommie probably use.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 13:14 PMleithianz

It's moving accuracy is 0.5.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 12:59 PMVipper

I suggest you repeat my test.

What are the stats for sapper_vickers_k_machine_gun_mp? because that is what tommie probably use.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 13:24 PMSupport Sapper

can it fire on the move ?

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 13:29 PMleithianz

| | moving: {
| | | accuracy_multiplier: 0.5f;
| | | burst_multiplier: 0.5f;
| | | cooldown_multiplier: 0.125f;
| | | disable_moving_firing: true;
| | | moving_end_time: 0f;
| | | moving_start_time: 0f;
| | };

Oh, you are right. They can't. `disable_moving_firing` is set to `true`. I just read the numbers without further looking

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 12:53 PMVipper

This is the test I did:

2 raid section entities with vickers K range around 20 range vs 5 grenadier entities did around 7.2 damage number provided by mod team 7.13(!)

Same set up moving they did around 3.36 DPS which is half, thus moving accuracy modifier can not be 25% and the number 60% accurate.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 13:25 PMleithianz

Well yes I did, and I don't quite see what kind of the test result you got. How did you done the test?

I did the exact same thing as I've done with Tommy.

Result:
Stationary: 31 sec.
Moving: 2 min. 13sec.

so it deals x0.23 lower in move. In other word, Vickers K deals x4.29 more dmg in statinary.
Seems like the result also backs me.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 13:33 PMHannibal

Don't Osttruppen have 1.25 RA or has this been patched? In that case, moving DPS would go down to 1.4 DPS. Wow...


Question to you both: How did you give them the Vickers? Via the truck? Or via slot item drop?

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 13:33 PMHannibal

Don't Osttruppen have 1.25 RA or has this been patched? In that case, moving DPS would go down to 1.4 DPS. Wow...


Question to you both: How did you give them the Vickers? Via the truck? Or via slot item drop?

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 13:46 PMminhuh064

Yeah, and Vipper wants us to use this on IS and RoE :v. .25 acc is very "problematic" to give out to other factions lol

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 14:11 PMthekessvn

OK, now we can confirm Vicker K has only 25% moving acc ?

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 14:14 PMVipper

I suggest you test yourself but I suggest you use ability to call in the raid squad and the upgrade to get Vickers K to be on the safe side.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 13:56 PMVipper

I used upgrade and my target was volks

I might have an idea for the problem, did you call in raid section or spawn them?

I do have to point that as far as I know before the patch the weapon used was the sapper_vickers_k_machine_gun_mp

Now it possible that a new weapon was created but I simply do not know.

You can check if the Infantry_vickers_k_machine_gun_mp.txt is the correct weapon by calculating the theoretical DPS from the stat and comparing with a call in raid section that upgrade with the weapon.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2022, 14:18 PMleithianz

Would you please kindly share how you've done the test & calculated dps?

Uploading a video would be even better.