Profile of ElSlayer

1. Problem: Early game vs MG spam (especially when theyre in buildings)

- Im facing the "mg spam" quite often vs ostheer. mostly 2 players focus on one side, every player builds 2 mgs, maybe one more and boom i have to deal with 4-6 mgs (in buildings) covering each other on strategic points.

what i try to do:
when i play US i try to tech grenades and try to "smoke and flank" with all my squads from different angles. but often those squads gets yellow suppressed and then forced to retreat all the way back home to base because grens are rolling in and supressed units deal no dmg.

as soviets for me its kinda easier, i build mortar and smoke barrage into molotov the mg, and that works pretty good. but here i have the problem that i can only smoke 1 MG resulting mostly in full retreat like when i play USF.

so what you guys do here?

As Soviets:

Other options:
1)Snipers
2)M3A1 scout car with engineers equipped with flamer - only if there is no grenadiers nearby because of obvious reasons.


As USF:
1)Upgrade grenade package earlier (before MGs reaches critical mass).

2)Use Rifle Company
Upgrade rifles with flamers.
Smoke, close in, burn them out.

3)In early-to-mid game: light vehicles/pack howie

4) Try to build Fighting Position with your first Rear Echelon troops so that key building will be in radius of Fighting Position's grenade range. Those grenades take out units in buildings quite quickly.

2. Problem: Hoards of Infantry in one giant Blob.
- i really cant handle players who send all their infantry in one blob around the map. i just get steamrolled.
- if i manage to get the blob retreating, its usually a minute or two when the blob rolls in again and stronger then before.

what i try to do:
as USF: i try to build 50 cal mg, mostly 2 of them. but i cant get it work. usually the blob just runs into it and snipes both mg crews or just walks in and throws grenade.
i also tried the flaktruck but its hard to use vs a shreckblob because it dies when they get 1 shot off.
the only thing that works for me is he sherman but it comes too late for me, because then the game is mostly lost.

as Sov:
i use the maxim and democharges. it works better for me than as usf, because maxims 6 man squadsize. but the problem is similar to the one i have with usf.
when i use the t70 or the flaktruck it just dies to volley of the blob.

As Soviets:
Double Katyushas.
Use first one to force blob to retreat and second one to finish them off while they are clumped in their retreat point.

Wait for blob to stop. You can force them to do so by building like of sandbags and putting cons there. They usually stop at mid distance.

Try to use Katys from as close distance as possible in order to reduce scatter of rockets.

Use Guards or PTRS cons to cover your Katys from vehicles.
Or better don't build Guards. Just put mines everywhere.

As USF:
Double MG should do the work. If you say it didn't, then I assume you didn't provided sight on enemy troops so they could start to fire on max range.
You need to lure them into MGs and screen with your infantry. If they are still closing in to MGs throw a preemptive grenade in their way.

I don't recommend to invest heavily into MGs because of heavy indirect fire in large team games.

Try Pack Howie (random suppression and squad wipes)
Also try M8A1 Scott howie. Don't expose it to their fire - kite them.

Just as cool as Feuersturm Doctrine

Feuersturm Doctrine still sounds worse.

cant really understand whats going on there

Just watch how long it took for them to finally make first shot from PTRS (which, by the way hit wall right next to them)

I highly recommend to use 2xSU-85 and 2xKatys combo in 4v4 games as Soviet. Throw in an unupgraded M5 to reinforce your infantry.

Works best with Tank Hunter Tactics because PTRS cons can lower HP of enemy armor (yes, even heavies) to the point where AT nade will do engine crit. Soft retreat your conscripts that lost models to reinforce them with your M5.

If you managed to crit engine on that Panther - you move in with SU-85s. If there are schreks coming at you, you scatter them with Katy barrage. Always try to perform barrage from shortest possible range for maximum density in order to get occasional squad wipes.

Then you salvage what left of Panther to rebuild any lost armor in that engagement and reinforce conscripts. Proceed to destroying OKW forward bases using PTAB bombing run.

Imagine if they add all the "minor Allies" the Axis had, they would have so many different accents and different uniforms, atleast if there would be 1-3 units per country (their army would look like a circus with so many different uniforms, but it could be damn funny to see them in action)

Just a single mainline infantry T0 unit - Osttruppen