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Also, as the game progresses more numerous squads are not an advantage as vehicles wipe everything equally.

Explain to me how its better to have a 4man unit than a 6man unit in this situation.

I guess there is some magical game mechanic that makes 6man units not have an advantage as compared to 4man units from vehicles "wiping everything equally".

Go ahead. I'll wait. This will be fascinating, I'm sure.

And grenadiers have pfaust and rnades from the get go.

Nope. RNade requires BP1.

He isint asking to make them equal to lmg grens. DP cons would still lose to lmg grens. All he wants is them to be able to fight lmg grens. Nothing else.

At what range are you talking about?

As Cruzz says, your stats dont add up.

Its a very tenuous balance between PIV and T3476/85.

I tend to agree it overall slightly favors Sov, due to that AI being applied against 4man infantry units, and the essentially "free " Ram, but this is somewhat recpirocated by PIV sitting neatly between these to Sov equivalents, with a "best of both worlds" kind of stat array, in addition to the emminently useful Blitz and the quite common Smoke option on many of what really are the best Ost Commanders. Pintle also allows a "half-step" to cover some of PIVs AI shortcomings, as well as a secondary AA function.

Mark Vehicle on T34/85 Commanders is very powerful, but arguably quite necessary in response to Relics penchant of sticking Tigers on so many Ost Commanders. And, also, somewhat, against Elephants.

Furthermore, there is the peripheral assymetric balqnce issue of Shrek PGrens, for which there just isnt a Sov equivalent. That counts for a few pointa, even though they are quite rarely used.

Its a very complciated balqnce system between these armor units, but overall, I think its pretty good atm.
I get where you are coming from, even though some of your stats are wrong, but the interbalqnce is quite good atm, certainly better in regards to these units, than it has been before.

I dont dispute your stats at all, but I think Albus included the fire rate as the actual core of his argument, whihc is not considered in the stats you posted (though I assume those as correct).

And yes, I agree completely on the T85s, even without Mark Vehicle (though really its so good you have to be a bit masochistic not to take it).

So FrikadelleXXL amd Katitof.

If I make a proposal thread to put Ram on PIV, am I correct in understanding both of you will vocally support it?

Katitof: "Ram is a non factor anymore"

FrikadelleXXL: "I wouldn't care if Ram is put on P4"