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Pz 4 turret rotation is not the best till ur vet 2.If a t-34 has to win thats how it usually wins...get in the first shot.With that turret rotation and RNG penetration sometimes they pull it off,overall p4 wins majority. |
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No one is complaining about E8's performance..its the cost for which that performance is recieved...and comapre that with pz 4 at just 10 fuel less and panther at 40 fuel more plus insane teching and still sucks balls to the point of being extinct.The only reason u don't see evry usf commander using rifle company is because its not accesible to everybody..as it becomes so by pay or war spoils..eventually only this doctrine will be used.E8 spam will cost effectively destroy any counter armor buildup.Panther barely beats 1,and it'll always face 2 or more. |
People really need to stop making 1:1 comparisons of the Easy8 to P4's or other tanks. Can the Easy8 have a Pak covering its flank? Or double faust PGs on its side? US armor needs all the help it can get.
Try using paks offensively.Ur saying ostheer is condemned to play only defensively till tiger.
The so called 'tank -hunter' panther has useless range it can't utilize on attack due to need for spotter..poor accuracy especially on move.And even if it actually flanked it ,its utterly poor DPS won't kill fast.Add to that it has to flee from the first AT gun and even harassed by couple bazookas into backtracking.This 1 tank tiger ostheer endgame meta has been going on since march and frankly its becoming extremely boring.Its even worse now that elfant is dead and buried. |
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Whats pleasing is 3 new commanders..i'm guessing we will also get 3 new OKW commanders. |
USF do not have any ZiS guns and this is where stug-e is problem.
Agreed.I have played as USF against stug e and its very annoying.But saying assgrens spam is cheese is L2P problem. |
Well I guess you can stop complaining about Guards + ISU152 then, it's cheese but it's only in 1 commander that has to be bought. See how silly your argument is?
Wehrmacht has cheese too. Playing a legit game against Mech assault doctrine is stacked against you. Playing a legit game (or anything other than sniper spam) against Luftwaffe Supply Doctrine is stacked hugely against you.
Luftwaffe supply is not imbalanced ,its bugged..bug will be fixed soon and i've never used it anyway.
As for mech assault..completely blown out of proportion..there are no odds 'stacked' against u...in 1 vs 1 its a solid threat to americans if ur stug can come early.For soviets there are plenty of excellent counters and it makes little difference.Its nowhere near the cheese that is sniperspam/guards into isu. |
We believe the issue is strongly rooted in the structure of the dispatch system rather than the unit itself which is performing as intended. There are changes in the pipeline being tested now, we will provide more detailed information once we are more confident it's the right direction to take.
How is easy eight at 135 fuel performing as intended over panzer 4 at 125 fuel?Is the 10 fuel gap meriting such a performance boost?then panther at 40 fuel more plus teching than easy eight and no AI,low DPS and misses half the time...hmm.as intended.Plz nerf the panther range.Its just paper stat pushing up its price,nothing more. |
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I won't mind giving conscripts a lategame upgrade option actually.1dps maybe.or 2 SVT.But it can't stack with ppsh.PPsh conscripts spam is highly underestimated..with oorah,molotovs and at nade its quite powerful due to the dirt cheap reinforce and mobility offered by oorah and blob munching ability of 2-3 molotovs. |
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Easiest way to deal with stug E is couple of zis.And its more effective in 1 vs 1 .not team games.And u always have to make sure its covered by pak.And on top its 1 commander..a buy commander at that..wheras both soviet spams-sniper and maxim are doctrinal and available from start.
No comparison really.
As for assgren spam..lol.U might bully some USf noobs 1 vs 1 with it.Once he has 3 rifles..good night charging.Jeep or m3 flamer..goodbye.The stug E is however very good vs usa,i admit..but soviets lol. zis or t-34 flank ..done. |
Goddamnit, I'm not going to derail what has been a good thread.
Cannonade, I'm sure OZ can fight his own battles and doesn't need you to do it for him. Nor are you a moderator. Just because I play custom games and not ladder doesn't make my opinion any less valid.
OZ, I apologise for calling you a troll but you suggested all soviets are noobs (apart from yourself) and their shitty design is fine. But your responses are utter crap - you give me a one line "i know best" and then tell me how faction design sucks. You haven't even touched the Maxim comment or the ranged infantry comment.
Austerlitz, mortars smash MG's and are perhaps the best counter in the game at the moment. Don't know what your ranting about. Could replace a few words and make it about grenadier lmg42's instead.
DarthBong, I've not once suggested that Ost rely on a tiger doctrine. I think thats equally bad design.
A well designed commander should be viable in all game modes, not one. Not to mention, as is constantly quoted, the game is balanced around 1v1.
I stand by what I said - maxims are fine the way they are (if not weaker than they should be vs Ost) and ranged combat is too lethal and needs to be toned own. Elite rifles is a moot point - its pretty well balanced and its power hinges on the easy 8 more than the riflemen.
Look man..its easy to say mortars smash mgs....6 man maxims in buildings with merge nearby..go try it.Play ostheer for 10-12 matches..u'll get my argument.Otherwise its not going to dawn on u.Really u think maxims are fine,mortars can do easy..go team game as ostheer and play a dozen matches..i won't have to convince u dude.Like i said play a dozen team games and come back and tell me how ur mortars totally pwned maximspams. |
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