Cmon! 5 maxims?? And you can't win as Ostheer against a dude who did 5 maxims??
Have you ever heard about smoke?
Team match ,lol..and i said 3-5.In a 1 vs 1 5 maxims would be cake.Team game 3-5 maxims are nightmare when complimented by temamate.Especially in urban maps its near unbeatable early on. |
Either the automatch is very kind to me, or I'm playing in an alternate reality, or my definition of ''widespread'' is not the same as yours. Since option 2 is probably out, and I otherwise face cheese strats from time to time (Volks blob, rifles blob, double sniper, Stug E spam, ect.), I'm gonna go with option 3 and say Maximspam is way more rare than some people try to make others believe. It's a bad strat used against bad players by bad players.
In 1 vs 1 sure,above that very high density and relic recognizes it.They have the stats and know best.Maxim spam doesn't mean only maxims,but 3-5 maxims as primary unit and 1-2 cons as backup into shocks and zis usually.Instead of the hmg being the support weapon it acts as the main infantry unit..and with 6 members multiple maxims in buildings is just awful.Its used by majority of soviet players unless they are spamming snipers or in rare case m3. |
Smoke don't do damage like axis smoke nades and smoke doesn't root your troops in place.
Why are you standing still, waiting for shocks?
U can't fire LMGs on the move,on the move ur fodder for shocks.Except obersoldaten who don't care.Its teh only only infantry soviets have no infantry counter to except snipers/mg.The other points are moot...shocks 2-3 in number can terrorize blobs of grenadiers with smoke. |
This made me curious enough to look it up. The video was made October 2013. Since then the maxim took two nerfs to rotation speed to address the issue.
December 10, 2013
Soviet Maxim: Rotation Speed Reduced from 225 degree/sec to 180 degree/sec
July 8, 2014
M1919 Maxim Heavy Machine Gun Team: Reduce Rotation Speed reduced from 180 degrees per second to 120 degrees per second
Anyway, enough derailment. I missed the point of Jaigen's video in the first place. Back to balance.
And still spam continues unabated..nerfs were totally ineffective. |
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Utterly false argument..shocks counter all axis infantry with smoke save obersoldaten . |
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I wouldn't mind giving conscripts better lategame scalability.Like a single of the guards lmgs upgrade.But earlygame stats shouldn't change or it will beat grens very easily.
Penals on other hand could use a universal buff,however correspondingly m3s would need looking at lest penals in m3 early on become too powerful. |
Complain about snipers, complain about maxim, complain about conspam, complain about katyusha, complain about su85. It seems to me like people on this board just expect to not lose against allies. German weapons are way better. I bet you laid no mines too. Those OKW mines are like the tm-35's before they got nerfed for being overpowered.
Nah just maxims...snipers for OKW due to lack of counter. |
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4 man,they can increase the hp of individual models.The 4 man would be more vulnerable to snipers and mortars.No more sticking it into building and chilling in team games,because mg 42 can't do the same. |
I might add that just a cost decrease of Ostheer T4 won´t make it any more attractive over no tech + Tiger. As long as you have the ability to get an omni-purpose tank performing way better than Panthers versus infantry and about the same in anti tank abilities, won´t make you build a Panther. If I go Panthers and sacrifice anti infantry power, I should get something performing better versus tanks.
Its never going to be worth it when it has less DPS than a panzer 4.And worse accuracy.Unbeleivable they expect us to use such a tank for the price.Armor can't kill anything..glorified meatshield with a dud gun and drunk gunner=panther. |
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Want flak 88-the classic one with the rotateable emplacement. |
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