Can You Please Fix Churchill Crocs Rear Armor ?

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2019, 06:49 AMmrgame2

Yes but panther rear half is only 90.
A Churchill has better chance of killing a panther than p4 has killing a Churchill, or a t34/85 has better chance of killing p5 than p4 killing Churchill etc.

As i been clamouring for. Panther veterancy of armor skirts is useless these days.

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2019, 07:01 AMmrgame2

Panther can't really max range Churchill unlike its hard counter can. So that's the frustration it needs to move closer and expose its weakass rear half

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2019, 07:07 AMKatitof

So, firefly exists, therefore you reverse into churchills range with panther?
That doesn't make any sense what so ever and has potential to be the most stupid argument of the year.

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2019, 20:41 PMAlphrum

Flanking any tank should be rewarding, simple. Plus, i thought that all med-heavy tanks rear armour's were being standardised, so ther is no reason for it to have 180 rear armour.

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2019, 21:30 PMBlueKnight

To reward player for flanking the slowest tank in the game with the fastest tanks is like giving a medal in karate competition to a 20yo that defeated a 9yo. Churchill mobility is shit, that's why I believe it was given extra survivability. There is no other tank that is this slow and neutered as churchill. It's main role is not to die and deal some damage. Flanking a fast tank like panther is rewarded with almost certain penetration because it's significantly more difficult to succeed in flanking a panther than it is to succeed in flanking the churchill.

Croc is worse than Tiger, Pershing, IS2, just leave it alone.

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2019, 21:46 PMAlphrum

KT, IS2, kv2 etc, these tanks are slow too, should they have 180 rear armour too?

And regarding the 2nd highlight, its role is not to die? so its supposed to be indestructible according to who? the balance team? and finally, it does do damage, it does INCREDIBLE damage to infantry and support weps, et guns etc, while being average agaisnt tanks and is able to soak up insane damage from the front.

point is, It doesn't need high armour on its rear to be able to exel at its current role. Do you srsly think the croc will be useless or ineffective without high rear armour? answer this question

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2019, 21:56 PMBlueKnight

KT, IS2, KV2 have a significantly more potent gun and don't have to go through the 50% gamble if they can even pen vetted PIV. Basically every medium tank in the game has better AI than churchill. Was churchill's AI so good, it wouldn't have to get on top of an AT gun to throw a nade at it.

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2019, 22:03 PMJilet

Well no other heavy tank has the premium of 420 blazing flamethrower.

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2019, 21:56 PMBlueKnight

KT, IS2, KV2 have a significantly more potent gun and don't have to go through the 50% gamble if they can even pen vetted PIV. Basically every medium tank in the game has better AI than churchill. Was churchill's AI so good, it wouldn't have to get on top of an AT gun to throw a nade at it.

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2019, 23:52 PMAlphrum

thought we was talking about the croc? its ai is worse then mediums?? no man wtf. In your earlier post, you said the slow mobility was the reason croc has high rear armour thus i mentioned other heavies and now your changing your reasoning. TBH, its not up to me or you, but the balance team who wer supposed to standardise all mid-heavy tanks rear armour, but have left out a few but will hopefully look at in the future. With rear armour nerfs the croc aswell as the Churchill will still be very viable options.

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2019, 02:34 AMmrgame2

Yes there is also unfairness feelings why the rear armor flank is rewarding nerf hasnt been applied to kv and is and Churchill.

Jump back to quoted post15 Oct 2019, 06:43 AMKatitof

Its been said thousand times by now, not having potent main guns(200+ pen at long range) means they'll have to make up somewhere else.

Jump back to quoted post14 Oct 2019, 21:30 PMBlueKnight

To reward player for flanking the slowest tank in the game with the fastest tanks is like giving a medal in karate competition to a 20yo that defeated a 9yo. Churchill mobility is shit, that's why I believe it was given extra survivability. There is no other tank that is this slow and neutered as churchill. It's main role is not to die and deal some damage. Flanking a fast tank like panther is rewarded with almost certain penetration because it's significantly more difficult to succeed in flanking a panther than it is to succeed in flanking the churchill.

Croc is worse than Tiger, Pershing, IS2, just leave it alone.