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Soviet tanks are garbage

6 Oct 2019, 18:57 PM
#1
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Kv8 tank secondary gun cant even destroy light vehicles.
Flame attacking infantry, it takes 1 min to kill a damn squad wiith it. How is it juistified that FIRE kills so SLOW??!?? It should kill infanytry immidiately!!!!! Before the damn flame tank kills anything, the enemy has already retreated his troops.

KV8 is the most underpowered tank in the game. I bet there were so many kids complaining abut flame vehicless that they decided to nerf this tank to oblivion.

M4c tank is the most overpriced tank in this game!

T84s' are garbage, no further words needed.


STOP NERFING AND RUINING THE GAME!
ANTI TANK SHOULD BE EFFECTIVE VS TANKS< DONT RUIN IT!!!
ANTI INFANTRY SHOULD BE EFFECTIVE VS INFANTRY< DONT RUIN IT!

IM GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF THE NERFING EVERYTHING THAT SHOULD BE GOOD, MAKING EVERYTHING MEDIOCRE!
6 Oct 2019, 19:17 PM
#2
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6 Oct 2019, 19:20 PM
#3
avatar of Maret

Posts: 711

How much game you played as SU? Just interesting.
KV-8 - if enemy retreat - you win, if you could kill his troops - it's good. But retreat ALWAYS mean that bttlefield in your hands. Want instakill enemy soldiers use Sturmtiger or Avre.
M4C - it's good for its; cost, can beat p4 and can beat heavies with HVAP rounds.
I think you mean T34, right? T-34 is bigger version of T-70, it's not supposed to fight 1vs1 p4. Use flanking, attack enemy soldiers, use Ram.
You main AT in SU T4 - Su-85, while T-34 is support unit for it.
6 Oct 2019, 19:22 PM
#4
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the t34s are too slow to flank
6 Oct 2019, 19:23 PM
#5
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Soviet tanks are garbage yes.
6 Oct 2019, 19:23 PM
#6
avatar of Maret

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If you want have armor adavantage against axis - use doc with T3485 and guards with mark target ot doc with t3485 and is-2
6 Oct 2019, 19:29 PM
#7
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Posts: 127

If you want AI Firepower-T-34-76.
If you want Anti-Blob Firepower-Katya (also against defensive enemies)
If you want Anti-Tank Firepower-SU-85.

Remember that 1 has to be in numbers and attack first, and other 2 to be behind, but one of the behinds also has to be at least of 2 if you see heavy tanks.


Guess yourself.
(I am not taking doctrines into account as it's understandable what each in docs do)
6 Oct 2019, 20:38 PM
#8
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T70 is also crazy overpriced, its a light tank that costs 70 fuel niot much les sthan a t34
6 Oct 2019, 20:57 PM
#9
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 18:57 PMRitter
Kv8 tank secondary gun cant even destroy light vehicles.
Flame attacking infantry, it takes 1 min to kill a damn squad wiith it. How is it juistified that FIRE kills so SLOW??!?? It should kill infanytry immidiately!!!!! Before the damn flame tank kills anything, the enemy has already retreated his troops.

KV8 is the most underpowered tank in the game. I bet there were so many kids complaining abut flame vehicless that they decided to nerf this tank to oblivion.

M4c tank is the most overpriced tank in this game!

T84s' are garbage, no further words needed.


STOP NERFING AND RUINING THE GAME!
ANTI TANK SHOULD BE EFFECTIVE VS TANKS< DONT RUIN IT!!!
ANTI INFANTRY SHOULD BE EFFECTIVE VS INFANTRY< DONT RUIN IT!

IM GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF THE NERFING EVERYTHING THAT SHOULD BE GOOD, MAKING EVERYTHING MEDIOCRE!


I play a lot of Soviets and not sure if I agree with most of this.
The T34 is priced just fine according to its performance. Same for the T34/85. The SU85 is my second favorite TD after the JP4 (on most maps). The ISU may have lost some popularity but it is still a beast.

My biggest complaint is that Falls have a faust so once you get two of them together, they can tell T34's to eff off. Also, the KV8 does seem week compared to the flame Hetzer. It's one of my least favorites.
6 Oct 2019, 21:04 PM
#10
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 20:38 PMRitter
T70 is also crazy overpriced, its a light tank that costs 70 fuel niot much les sthan a t34

Cost reflects his timing and performance.
Really, each your post looks like trolling or intentional hate production. No any suggestions, ideas, or analyze, only bunch of emotions, like kid in hysteria.
6 Oct 2019, 22:45 PM
#11
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Why bother learning to play if you can blame the game instead!

11/10 would whine again
6 Oct 2019, 23:50 PM
#12
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of course hitler things this. wait until you face them being used competently...just you wait....
7 Oct 2019, 00:59 AM
#13
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Assuming this isnt a troll thread, I disagree with the op on all points.
7 Oct 2019, 01:03 AM
#14
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jump backJump back to quoted post6 Oct 2019, 18:57 PMRitter

IM GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF THE NERFING EVERYTHING THAT SHOULD BE GOOD, MAKING EVERYTHING MEDIOCRE!

i wanna see this guys face when penuls get nerfed...
7 Oct 2019, 02:03 AM
#15
avatar of frostbite

Posts: 593

su85 is one of the worst tank destroyers in some maps. plus its rotation just sucks now. tanks run around it so easy. and its thier only reliable tank destroyer. its super slow when vision to. they should revert its rotation speed atleast to wat it used to be
7 Oct 2019, 02:37 AM
#16
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Posts: 5279

su85 is one of the worst tank destroyers in some maps. plus its rotation just sucks now. tanks run around it so easy. and its thier only reliable tank destroyer. its super slow when vision to. they should revert its rotation speed atleast to wat it used to be

The maps that the su85 are weakest in are also where ptrs penals satchel are strongest. It evens out pretty well in that regard. Can't have at all all the time. Su85 has super great pen, self spotting and decent ROF but is weak to flanks. Aside from the Jackson all TDs have some sort of exploitable weakness.
7 Oct 2019, 13:06 PM
#17
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>check OP user name

>people are posting here unironically

:rofl::rofl::lolol::lolol::lolol::lolol:
7 Oct 2019, 14:18 PM
#18
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Soviet quality was crap in real life.
7 Oct 2019, 14:24 PM
#19
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 14:18 PMspajn
Soviet quality was crap in real life.


Depends actually, by 1944/45 (where this game's set in) the soviets actually had the germans outclassed in basically everything except for crazy impractical wunderwaffen ideas.
7 Oct 2019, 14:54 PM
#20
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Oct 2019, 14:18 PMspajn
Soviet quality was crap in real life.


It was built on a different understanding of quality.


Western tanks were designed not to break down in the first place.

Russian tanks were designed to be easy to fix when they did.
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